HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
I don't know any console people who don't have most of them. Only ones that I know that don't have all aren't gamers AND don't have computers at home.
But the SAME logic that says you need to constantly update your PC even though it still works fine... says that you need all of the consoles and all of the latest ones. Either the PC is cheaper because you don't actually have to keep upgrading. Or it is cheaper because you only need one. Any apples to apples, it wins outside of casual gamers who don't use computers.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've seen for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
On this note I have an xBox for sale if anyone wants one... Used twice.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
Been Steam Machines (Steam consoles) for over seven months now. And they've had dongles for their controllers since they released almost a year ago. And they have the Steam Link for remote gaming with their controllers, too.
One dongle allows four Steam Controllers to one machine.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
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Steam merged the PC and the console a year ago. Once Big Picture released, the PC really offers everything that the console does and way more. From the game pad only experience to the online social stuff. It's all there.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
True. Is it accessible without opening the chassis?
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
True. Is it accessible without opening the chassis?
Would be hard to get to something inside the chassis without opening it
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PS4 Neo, that's the new one that I was thinking of. People addicted to the latest and greatest will need to upgrade their PS4 just like PC gamers upgrading when new GPUs come out. I heard a rumour that XBox One is doing a similar release of an upgrade.
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PS4 Neo, that's the new one that I was thinking of. People addicted to the latest and greatest will need to upgrade their PS4 just like PC gamers upgrading when new GPUs come out. I heard a rumour that XBox One is doing a similar release of an upgrade.
It are a fact... (well, as factual as anything prior to release)
Various dipping sauces:- http://www.tomsguide.com/us/xbox-4-rumors-release-date,news-22614.html
- http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/05/reports-microsoft-preparing-multiple-xbox-upgrades-over-next-two-years/
- http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/19/11457546/xbox-one-hardware-upgrade-rumors
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I game and I know things.
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Keeping up in the console world is actually quite hard. New stuff to buy constantly.
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Hardware doesn't change That's so you are too busy to ask questions like
- Why is this system less powerful than a 3 year old PC
- Why am I paying to connect to an online service where I pay more for a game online than at a physical store? (PS Plus)
- Why can't I upgrade the HDD, easily, myself? (XBOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
) - Why does everything cost so much? There's, what seems to be, a 20% console tax that you add on to the price of EVERYTHING
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It's true. The console tax is astounding.
