HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@aaron said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
The last HP kit I bought abruptly required a care pack for firmware updates that was almost as much as the hardware. Fool me once...
Yeah I'm kinda pissed that HP is now requiring active maintenance to get firmware updates for servers.
Is it only for servers? And... why buys HPE servers without active maintenance. And... we were talking about HP, not HPE. Two separate companies. Which are people complaining about?
I'm complaining about HPE. Don't ask me why companies don't maintain active hardware support contracts - they just do. Now it's biting them in another way.
HPE servers are like EMC SANs, getting one without service contracts just doesn't make sense. Use SuperMicro!
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I haven't seen HP.com (consumer) pull any BIOS/Firmware updates yet. Hopefully that will never happen.
Then why was an HPE firmware issue mentioned as a reason not to use HP equipment? I'm confused.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@aaron said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
The last HP kit I bought abruptly required a care pack for firmware updates that was almost as much as the hardware. Fool me once...
Yeah I'm kinda pissed that HP is now requiring active maintenance to get firmware updates for servers.
Is it only for servers? And... why buys HPE servers without active maintenance. And... we were talking about HP, not HPE. Two separate companies. Which are people complaining about?
I'm complaining about HPE. Don't ask me why companies don't maintain active hardware support contracts - they just do. Now it's biting them in another way.
HPE servers are like EMC SANs, getting one without service contracts just doesn't make sense. Use SuperMicro!
Assuming you keep servers for 5+ years, are you saying it's pointless to get an HPE if you don't carry a support contract for the entire life of the server? most HPEs come with a 3 year warranty/support. After 5 years the cost of support is generally so high to make it rarely worthwhile, assuming you can live without the server for a few days while ordering a replacement - and that would only be the case in a major system failure situation.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I haven't seen HP.com (consumer) pull any BIOS/Firmware updates yet. Hopefully that will never happen.
Then why was an HPE firmware issue mentioned as a reason not to use HP equipment? I'm confused.
It wasn't. When did I or anyone say Not to use HPE hardware? I only complained that without an active support contract you can't get firmware updates.
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@aaron said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
The last HP kit I bought abruptly required a care pack for firmware updates that was almost as much as the hardware. Fool me once...
This statement that began the discussion of firmware. It says HP in a thread about HP. Does HP require this or is this only HPE and it was mistakenly added to this thread?
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Aww - yes exactly - So he had a 5 year old server that he wanted to update, and he couldn't get updates any more on a server that was purchased before this change, and now that maintenance now costs as much as a new server. ug!
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
Aww - yes exactly - So he had a 5 year old server that he wanted to update, and he couldn't get updates any more on a server that was purchased before this change, and now that maintenance now costs as much as a new server. ug!
Yeah, but that's HPE. Right? HP doesn't do any server stuff.
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@aaron said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@aaron said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
The last HP kit I bought abruptly required a care pack for firmware updates that was almost as much as the hardware. Fool me once...
This statement that began the discussion of firmware. It says HP in a thread about HP. Does HP require this or is this only HPE and it was mistakenly added to this thread?
It was HP. A proliant n40l as a home server. There was no HPE then. I loved HP, I even sold their products as a rep, but I will never buy anything from that brand again. Sadly including printers and especially a gaming machine.
This happened before the split?
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Gotcha. I've never seen HP or HPE do this. But never used those little boxes either.
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I have always been one to build my own rig. Although, these are competitively priced from what I can see.
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@wrx7m said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I have always been one to build my own rig. Although, these are competitively priced from what I can see.
Hard to build your own laptop. For a desktop, I would definitely build.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah, that is for sure. I have also never been a fan of laptop gaming and skipped right over their laptop section and went for the desktops.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
Gotcha. I've never seen HP or HPE do this. But never used those little boxes either.
It's not just little boxes, I had a call for someone and needed to update a DL350 Gen 8, same issue.
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I always check out http://www.pcper.com/hwlb for the latest on the gaming parts for my PC upgrades. My current system is an ASUS GENE motherboard with an i7-4790, 16gb of RAM and an nVidia 970. It's not the greatest, but I can still play everything just fine. Using the pcper site, it's easy to pick and choose where to upgrade.
The monitor from HP looks nice! I wonder how it will compare to the Dell monitor (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-ADTR)?
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@Grey said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I always check out http://www.pcper.com/hwlb for the latest on the gaming parts for my PC upgrades. My current system is an ASUS GENE motherboard with an i7-4790, 16gb of RAM and an nVidia 970. It's not the greatest, but I can still play everything just fine. Using the pcper site, it's easy to pick and choose where to upgrade.
The monitor from HP looks nice! I wonder how it will compare to the Dell monitor (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-ADTR)?
Nice site, I love the decisive recommendations, something I always felt was missing from Tom's Hardware.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
Gotcha. I've never seen HP or HPE do this. But never used those little boxes either.
It's not just little boxes, I had a call for someone and needed to update a DL350 Gen 8, same issue.
A G8 without service? Good grief.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Grey said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I always check out http://www.pcper.com/hwlb for the latest on the gaming parts for my PC upgrades. My current system is an ASUS GENE motherboard with an i7-4790, 16gb of RAM and an nVidia 970. It's not the greatest, but I can still play everything just fine. Using the pcper site, it's easy to pick and choose where to upgrade.
The monitor from HP looks nice! I wonder how it will compare to the Dell monitor (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-ADTR)?
Nice site, I love the decisive recommendations, something I always felt was missing from Tom's Hardware.
I quit building my own rigs after I found a couple sites like Cyber Power PC. The prices are about what I can put the same components together for, they ARE standard components, and I have a 1 stop place for warranty work for a year or two. Most of those systems have lasted a long, long time because they do use industry standard motherboards/cases/power supplies/etc. So upgrading down the road is super easy.
