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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      So do you think that the whole "Enterprise" naming is simply a way to try and get people to think about XenServer as being "business" ready? Much like people equate ESXi as "what you run when you're in a business".

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        How many businesses today are using the community edition today and have not needed enterprise support? I know of at least 1 (the one I'm at)

        I'm sure @scottalanmiller knows of several more that are also using it without the need for support from Citrix.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

          So do you think that the whole "Enterprise" naming is simply a way to try and get people to think about XenServer as being "business" ready? Much like people equate ESXi as "what you run when you're in a business".

          I think that it is FUD branding from Citrix to get people scared. People call things the "Community" edition to make it sound like free isn't for business.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            Hopefully any business that is looking at the two will find that they are completely functional and without limitation. Obviously anyone currently using XenServer would know this.

            But who knows with the FUD factor.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

              Hopefully any business that is looking at the two will find that they are completely functional and without limitation. Obviously anyone currently using XenServer would know this.

              But who knows with the FUD factor.

              I'm not so sure it's that obvious.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

                XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

                A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Monitor?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                    @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

                    XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

                    A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

                    The lines are blurred like they were for me with RHE Linux. I didn't know that it was 100% free - the FUD around it made me think/assume you HAD to buy it, or at least HAD to buy support.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                      Monitor?

                      Yeah I have no idea what I was typing there.

                      I think what I meant was XenApp / XenDesktop has nothing to do with XenServer.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                        The lines are blurred like they were for me with RHE Linux. I didn't know that it was 100% free - the FUD around it made me think/assume you HAD to buy it, or at least HAD to buy support.

                        That is understandable. If you want "XenServer" (and @scottalanmiller correct me if I'm wrong) you go through Citrix. If you want "Xen Server" you go to the Linux Foundation.

                        They are the same product, just released from two sources.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          This monitor seems to be pretty chill. Maybe it is a zen monitor:

                          monitor

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                            That is understandable. If you want "XenServer" (and @scottalanmiller correct me if I'm wrong) you go through Citrix. If you want "Xen Server" you go to the Linux Foundation.

                            They are the same product, just released from two sources.

                            There is no and never has been a "Xen Server".

                            Xen and XenServer are Linux Foundation.

                            XenApp and XenDesktop are Citrix.

                            Citrix offers XenServer Enterprise with additional add ons that are not directly part of the Xen or XenServer codebases.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              So the question that I have is. What is in the "Enterprise" edition that isn't in the community edition?

                              Also did Citrix write code on their own for applications that run on the Hypervisor?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

                                XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

                                A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

                                Moniker?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                  This to me seems like the Red Hat Enterprise Edition thing all over again. According to Scott, RHE is 100% free - though they don't make links directly available on their website to download it (though I could be wrong on that now).
                                  So this means, IF you can get your hands on the bits, you can use it to your hearts content, you just don't get support.

                                  I don't know if this is true. If in fact Citrix has some closed source code in their installation media, you having it without having paid for it is theft.

                                  Without having access to the XS7 release from Citrix I have no way to compare the MD5's. Does anyone here pay for XenServer from Citrix?

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
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                                    Men you FOSS folks, y'all make things as clear as mud!

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                      FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                      Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                        Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                        http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @FATeknollogee
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                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                          FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                          Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                          http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                            FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                            Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                            http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

                                            I beat you to it 😛

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