Question about pfSense Site to Site VPN

scottalanmiller

but it is a good idea since home are better location for hosting these days

Very cost effective.

IT-ADMIN

@IT-ADMIN said:

in the future we can think about hosting our data (files) in the cloud, but what about Application server, this is the problem we cannot install our application in an outside server in the cloud,

For legal reasons?

honestly i don't know, but i think that the IT company that sold us this application will not accept to install it in an hosted server as far as i can see

IT-ADMIN

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

honestly i don't know, but i think that the IT company that sold us this application will not accept to install it in an hosted server as far as i can see

Oh, I see. I've never heard of that stipulation in a contract. How do they define hosted? Likely an terminology that would limit hosting would also stop you using a VPN as you are self hosting to another location in that case (to the remote office, you are the hosted application facility.) It would be a bizarre legal stipulation to disallow any enterprise use of the software. Not that that doesn't regularly happen, but it would be seriously bizarre.

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

Is it a software vendor that you can disclose?

IT-ADMIN

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

Is it a software vendor that you can disclose?

No we cannot disclose with this vendor since employees get familiar with the application and also we already bought the licence of multiple users, we cannot cancel anything with them,

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

Is it a software vendor that you can disclose?

No we cannot disclose with this vendor since employees get familiar with the application and also we already bought the licence of multiple users, we cannot cancel anything with them,

No, disclose meaning.... can you tell us on MangoLassi who the vendor is

IT-ADMIN

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

Is it a software vendor that you can disclose?

No we cannot disclose with this vendor since employees get familiar with the application and also we already bought the licence of multiple users, we cannot cancel anything with them,

No, disclose meaning.... can you tell us on MangoLassi who the vendor is

aaaaah sorry i though that you mean close, because i'm not an English speaker, i just studied it,
concerning the vendor, it is not a well known company, it is called TEBAS (technical business application system) located in egypt

IT-ADMIN

but if we host this application, will it be safe and private ???

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

but if we host this application, will it be safe and private ???

Most likely safer than it is now. It depends where you host, of course, just like it depends how well you secure it yourself. But, in general, the big enterprise hosts are the safest places anywhere. Those are the big ones like Amazon, Rackspace, Microsoft Azure, IBM / Softlayer, etc. They are extremely secure. You would get your own OS instance, so you would have full control of the server just as if it were your own.

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i didn't propose to them this idea yet, but i have a feeling that they will not accept

Is it a software vendor that you can disclose?

No we cannot disclose with this vendor since employees get familiar with the application and also we already bought the licence of multiple users, we cannot cancel anything with them,

No, disclose meaning.... can you tell us on MangoLassi who the vendor is

aaaaah sorry i though that you mean close, because i'm not an English speaker, i just studied it,
concerning the vendor, it is not a well known company, it is called TEBAS (technical business application system) located in egypt

Good opportunity to practice English being here on MangoLassi! I assume that you normally speak Arabic given that you are from Morocco and live in Qatar?

IT-ADMIN

yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

IT-ADMIN

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

but if we host this application, will it be safe and private ???

Most likely safer than it is now. It depends where you host, of course, just like it depends how well you secure it yourself. But, in general, the big enterprise hosts are the safest places anywhere. Those are the big ones like Amazon, Rackspace, Microsoft Azure, IBM / Softlayer, etc. They are extremely secure. You would get your own OS instance, so you would have full control of the server just as if it were your own.

you meant, they will provide me with a virtual OS in their server right

IT-ADMIN

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

but if we host this application, will it be safe and private ???

Most likely safer than it is now. It depends where you host, of course, just like it depends how well you secure it yourself. But, in general, the big enterprise hosts are the safest places anywhere. Those are the big ones like Amazon, Rackspace, Microsoft Azure, IBM / Softlayer, etc. They are extremely secure. You would get your own OS instance, so you would have full control of the server just as if it were your own.

you meant, they will provide me with a virtual OS in their server right

i have to pay for a windows server licence or not???

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

LOL, yes I know Morocco. We are actually thinking about going there later this year. I've never been there but have been as close as Madrid and Lisbon. My family is considering spending a month in Spain this year and if we do we will certainly hop the ferry over to Morocco too. But we haven't settled on Spain for this year. We are also considering Croatia and are known to change our minds dramatically at the last minute. Although with only a few months left to go, we need to decide pretty soon. Those are our two most likely locations for this year. Partially it will depend if I am attending VMWorld in Barcelona or not.

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

but if we host this application, will it be safe and private ???

Most likely safer than it is now. It depends where you host, of course, just like it depends how well you secure it yourself. But, in general, the big enterprise hosts are the safest places anywhere. Those are the big ones like Amazon, Rackspace, Microsoft Azure, IBM / Softlayer, etc. They are extremely secure. You would get your own OS instance, so you would have full control of the server just as if it were your own.

you meant, they will provide me with a virtual OS in their server right

Correct. You would still be the administrator and be the only person with access.

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

i have to pay for a windows server licence or not???

Sort of. You pay a monthly fee for the server and the license is included. You don't buy a license, but the cost of the service includes the license. So in a way you pay for it, but you don't need to worry about getting a license.

scottalanmiller

How much memory does your application server use today? And I assume that it is running on Windows, hence the question about the license.

IT-ADMIN

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i have to pay for a windows server licence or not???

Sort of. You pay a monthly fee for the server and the license is included. You don't buy a license, but the cost of the service includes the license. So in a way you pay for it, but you don't need to worry about getting a license.

yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

Glad to help, gives me a nice break from cleaning the house which is what I am doing when not typing.