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    • BRRABill
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said

      Just because you can... does not mean that you should. SMB for SR is not a good idea.

      I was just being funny. I'm actually starting to really see the other side.

      If for nothing else than to get away from the ridiculous licensing.

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill last edited by

        @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

        @scottalanmiller

        So in your insistence that new versions of software like this are safe to install Day 1 ... safe to install Day 1?

        I know there has been a lot of discussion on ML about the fact some people feel a need to wait for the initial bugs, but some say, go for it.

        This has been in testing for a long time and is production released now. If you were going to wait... what would be waiting for?

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        • scottalanmiller
          scottalanmiller last edited by

          NFSv4 is available now too, but like SMB, don't use it. NFSv3 is the leader in file storage for things like VM storage.

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          • BRRABill
            BRRABill last edited by

            @scottalanmiller @DustinB3403

            I know there has been a lot of discussion about relocating log files and swap files/partitions if you boot off of USB.

            How do you think this new version, having separate partitions for these tasks, will affect this?

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill last edited by

              @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

              @scottalanmiller @DustinB3403

              I know there has been a lot of discussion about relocating log files and swap files/partitions if you boot off of USB.

              How do you think this new version, having separate partitions for these tasks, will affect this?

              We will have to see how the installer handles it, but in theory it is going to make this very easy.

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              • DustinB3403
                DustinB3403 last edited by

                @BRRABill the increased root partition is to make life easier to manage log files.

                Ideally you'd still want to push your log files to a different medium entirely so that your boot device isn't consumed with read/write events.

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                • scottalanmiller
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                  @BRRABill the increased root partition is to make life easier to manage log files.

                  Ideally you'd still want to push your log files to a different medium entirely so that your boot device isn't consumed with read/write events.

                  That's one of the new features. Separate log device for the logs.

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                  • DustinB3403
                    DustinB3403 last edited by

                    One suck part.

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                    • scottalanmiller
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 is that a feature that it had before? And really, isn't that something you would want outside of XS, not inside of it?

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                      • DustinB3403
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller I would want to be able to manage the DRAC from within XS if at all possible.

                        One less interface to have to jump through to manage the hardware. But I have a general idea of why it isn't able to control the host.

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                          @scottalanmiller I would want to be able to manage the DRAC from within XS if at all possible.

                          but the point of out of band management is to be out of band. Just use in band management from inside of XS.

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                          • DustinB3403
                            DustinB3403 last edited by

                            I know I get it, but at the same time.. lol

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                            • DustinB3403
                              DustinB3403 last edited by

                              Another cool function is that you can have an AV agent like BitDefender's GravityZone and still protect the VM's as if there was an AV agent installed directly to the guest!

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                              • A
                                Alex Sage last edited by Alex Sage

                                Looks like you can updates directly from XenCenter now. Sorry @olivier 😞

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                                • DustinB3403
                                  DustinB3403 @Alex Sage last edited by

                                  @aaronstuder said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  Looks like you can updates directly from XenCenter now. Sorry @olivier 😞

                                  That's because the functionality was released by Citrix for XC to everyone. No reason to not have it built in this version either.

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                                  • BRRABill
                                    BRRABill @Alex Sage last edited by

                                    @aaronstuder said

                                    Looks like you can updates directly from XenCenter now. Sorry @olivier 😞

                                    That's actually been around for a while now.

                                    I was looking for the "windows-like way" of updating and found it. 🙂

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                                    • BRRABill
                                      BRRABill @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said

                                      Ideally you'd still want to push your log files to a different medium entirely so that your boot device isn't consumed with read/write events.

                                      Or the cells on the thumb drive torched, which is probably the bigger concern, right?

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                                      • BRRABill
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        That's one of the new features. Separate log device for the logs.

                                        They had that in 6.5, too.

                                        Though it didn't turn off local logging as well.

                                        Are you saying with XS7, you can totally turn off local logging?

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                                        • BRRABill
                                          BRRABill last edited by

                                          Just a "Jeopardy Knowledge" question...

                                          Can someone explain the difference between these two things? Is one (7.0.1) only provided to paying support customers?

                                          "Note: This issue occurs only on the original copy of XenCenter (v7.0.0) included on the XenServer 7.0 Base Installation ISO. Installing XenCenter v7.0.1, available to download from the XenServer 7.0 Product Download page, resolves this issue"

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                                          • BRRABill
                                            BRRABill @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                            The root partition is now 18GB!

                                            Damn!

                                            Now I don't feel bad using that 32GB for my production system.

                                            Actually, reading through the install guide, it says this... So it looks like 32GB isn't even enough!!

                                            • 18GB XenServer host control domain (dom0) partition
                                            • 18GB backup partition
                                            • 4GB logs partition
                                            • 1GB swap partition
                                            • 0.5GB UEFI boot partition

                                            Customers installing XenServer 7.0 with the new partition layout described above should ensure they have a disk that is at least 46GB in size.

                                            Customers who would like to install XenServer 7.0 on smaller devices, that is devices with more than 12GB but less than 46GB disk space, can perform a clean installation of XenServer 7.0 using the legacy DOS partition layout.

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