Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product
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Hrm... seems like an odd choice, anyone able to shed some additional light?
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This is probably because Dell bought VMWare's ESXi and is now wanting to push a unified product with their hardware.
What I find odd is that they would say we no longer support it at all. Seems to push customers away who prefer XS over ESXi from doing any business at all with Dell.
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@DustinB3403 said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
Hrm... seems like an odd choice, anyone able to shed some additional light?
Dell bought EMC which owns VMWare.... this just seems like a business move to push VMWare. They want to push a higher margin SAN and VMWare in their 2-1 inverted pyramid.
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I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
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@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
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https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1595422-dell-servers-with-xenserver
Thanks for the spot. I asked it here, some might not be aware of it.
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@DustinB3403 said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
This is probably because Dell bought VMWare's ESXi and is now wanting to push a unified product with their hardware.
It's a logical guess. Dell and XenServer are now direct competitors.
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@coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
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@johnhooks said
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.
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@scottalanmiller said
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
That was your point, yes.
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Ok that's embarrassing.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1592415-dell-discontinued-support-for-citrix-xenserver
A convo was already happening about it.
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@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@johnhooks said
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.
Yeah, looking forward to that. Hoping that QCOW is in there, too.
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@Breffni-Potter This is why you should follow me on SW.... lol
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@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@johnhooks said
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.
Ah didn't realize that. It's not packaged for RHEL any more. That's good though.
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@johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.
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@coliver said
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
Hardware management while the server is running, made easy.
We discussed this a lot in my failing array thread.
iDrac leaves a lot to be desired, though @scottalanmiller found a waya round that with ... text commands!
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@scottalanmiller said
Yeah, looking forward to that. Hoping that QCOW is in there, too.
I've been following the posts on the betas. Looks like a lot of nice stuff is on its way. (And probably soon.)
Probably the day after I get my 6.5 system finished.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.
Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.
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@johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
@BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:
I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.
He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.
Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.
And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.
For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?
RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.
Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.
But don't we expect Dundee in months? Not.. you know, half a decade?
