Video plugin issue with fullscreen


  • Service Provider

    I had not tried to watch a video fullscreen in some time, so I do not know when this started.

    Using current Chrome
    Go here: http://mangolassi.it/topic/131/nsfw-failarmy-week/55
    Start a video. It plays fine.
    Hit full screen and it attempts to switch then crashes back to the thread with no video playing.



  • @JaredBusch

    Yeah, same here.



  • I've never seen a video posted here play full screen.



  • Full screen works fine for me, but I only use FireFox.



  • I only use chrome...



  • The primary reason I use FF is Tree Style Tabs. There are some things that try to accomplish this on Chrome, but none that do it anywhere near as good.



  • @Dashrender said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    The primary reason I use FF is Tree Style Tabs. There are some things that try to accomplish this on Chrome, but none that do it anywhere near as good.

    Did you hear the Security Now podcast this week about FF? 🙂



  • @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @Dashrender said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    The primary reason I use FF is Tree Style Tabs. There are some things that try to accomplish this on Chrome, but none that do it anywhere near as good.

    Did you hear the Security Now podcast this week about FF? 🙂

    About how Steve still uses it because of his lack of RAM on his XP machine? yes..and also how he also likes tree style tabs? yes... how he'll probably move to Chrome, but hate the tree style tabs option available over there.. yeah.
    😉



  • @Dashrender said

    About how Steve still uses it because of his lack of RAM on his XP machine? yes..and also how he also likes tree style tabs? yes... how he'll probably move to Chrome, but hate the tree style tabs option available over there.. yeah.
    😉

    The big takeaway for me was that as much as he loved FF he is leaving it for security reasons.

    That's a pretty bold statement.



  • @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @Dashrender said

    About how Steve still uses it because of his lack of RAM on his XP machine? yes..and also how he also likes tree style tabs? yes... how he'll probably move to Chrome, but hate the tree style tabs option available over there.. yeah.
    😉

    The big takeaway for me was that as much as he loved FF he is leaving it for security reasons.

    That's a pretty bold statement.

    I didn't take it that way. He's leaving it because it's old and falling behind. But at the same time FF is starting a new browser project much like MS did with making Edge.

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.


  • Service Provider

    @Dashrender said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.

    yes, I would say that he fundamentally doesn't understand how software maturity works and totally has no idea about how software gets made. XP isn't getting "honed" over time, it's just left to rot. If it were being regularly patched and maintained, there would be some value to the concept, but it is not. Windows 10 is the latest release that came from XP, not only with more and current patches, but with more than a decade more testing on it, more honing and major components upgrades when more secure ways of dealing with things were invented (or could be handled by the CPU.)



  • @Dashrender said in

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.

    The other thing that made me say "hmmmmmm" this week was that he recommends the built in AV in Windows (which I am not totally against) and that he cleans malware instead of clean installing. (Or at least it seemed that way.) We all know that is a big ML no-no. I was actually going to send him a question about that one.


  • Service Provider

    @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @Dashrender said in

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.

    The other thing that made me say "hmmmmmm" this week was that he recommends the built in AV in Windows (which I am not totally against) and that he cleans malware instead of clean installing. (Or at least it seemed that way.) We all know that is a big ML no-no. I was actually going to send him a question about that one.

    People use "clean" machines all of the time. A friend of mine runs a local PC repair shop in my hometown and does almost nothing but that.

    Personally, I would never trust a compromised machine, but then I also keep real backups. That is something most people do not have and thus the reason they have to clean.


  • Service Provider

    @JaredBusch said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @Dashrender said in

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.

    The other thing that made me say "hmmmmmm" this week was that he recommends the built in AV in Windows (which I am not totally against) and that he cleans malware instead of clean installing. (Or at least it seemed that way.) We all know that is a big ML no-no. I was actually going to send him a question about that one.

    People use "clean" machines all of the time. A friend of mine runs a local PC repair shop in my hometown and does almost nothing but that.

    Personally, I would never trust a compromised machine, but then I also keep real backups. That is something most people do not have and thus the reason they have to clean.

    It's not that lots of people don't do it, but there is a big gap between doing it and recommending it as an intentional process.

    Instead he should recommend that people take backups, for example.



  • @scottalanmiller said

    It's not that lots of people don't do it, but there is a big gap between doing it and recommending it as an intentional process.

    Instead he should recommend that people take backups, for example.

    You kind of went as far to say it was almost negligent, if I remember. Which was one of the reasons I really changed around how I deal with the stuff.

    But to hear it from a security guy ... as I said, made me go "hmmmm".


  • Service Provider

    @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @scottalanmiller said

    It's not that lots of people don't do it, but there is a big gap between doing it and recommending it as an intentional process.

    Instead he should recommend that people take backups, for example.

    You kind of went as far to say it was almost negligent, if I remember. Which was one of the reasons I really changed around how I deal with the stuff.

    But to hear it from a security guy ... as I said, made me go "hmmmm".

    Security Guy on TV (podcast) is oh such a great source......



  • @JaredBusch said

    Security Guy on TV (podcast) is oh such a great source......

    Not saying that he is, just saying they have a large audience of people who DO listen to the show.



  • @JaredBusch said

    Security Guy on TV (podcast) is oh such a great source......

    My goal today is now to post something you'll comment positively on. I have a pretty bad track record thus far.

    Hmmmm, I'll have to think about this one.



  • @JaredBusch said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    I had not tried to watch a video fullscreen in some time, so I do not know when this started.

    Using current Chrome
    Go here: http://mangolassi.it/topic/131/nsfw-failarmy-week/55
    Start a video. It plays fine.
    Hit full screen and it attempts to switch then crashes back to the thread with no video playing.

    same


  • Service Provider

    @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @JaredBusch said

    Security Guy on TV (podcast) is oh such a great source......

    My goal today is now to post something you'll comment positively on. I have a pretty bad track record thus far.

    Hmmmm, I'll have to think about this one.

    Challenge-Accepted-Meme-Barney-03.jpg



  • @JaredBusch said

    Challenge-Accepted-Meme-Barney-03.jpg

    Well it's a good thing you challenge isn't working the other way because this post made me truly laugh out loud in my office.



  • @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @JaredBusch said

    Challenge-Accepted-Meme-Barney-03.jpg

    Well it's a good thing you challenge isn't working the other way because this post made me truly laugh out loud in my office.

    The most anyone ever gets out of me is a snicker. I haven't laughed hard is a really long time sadly.



  • @wirestyle22 said

    The most anyone ever gets out of me is a snicker. I haven't laughed hard is a really long time sadly.

    I'm a pretty happy person, in general.

    That's why online insults/taunts/whatever don't really bother me, and I rarely fight with anyone online.

    Life's too short.



  • @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @wirestyle22 said

    The most anyone ever gets out of me is a snicker. I haven't laughed hard is a really long time sadly.

    I'm a pretty happy person, in general.

    That's why online insults/taunts/whatever don't really bother me, and I rarely fight with anyone online.

    Life's too short.

    I totally agree. I'm a generally happy person. I just have a really dry sense of humor.



  • @wirestyle22 said

    I totally agree. I'm a generally happy person. I just have a really dry sense of humor.

    Most IT people I've met generally do.


  • Service Provider

    @wirestyle22 said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    I haven't laughed hard is a really long time sadly.

    You need to go out drinking with buddies more or something. Random conversation with friends has left me on the floor gasping for breath from laughing my ass off more than anything else.



  • @BRRABill said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @wirestyle22 said

    I totally agree. I'm a generally happy person. I just have a really dry sense of humor.

    Most IT people I've met generally do.

    This morning I woke up at 5:00 AM. On Facebook I saw a meme page that made a generic, terrible post and I thought "I'm never going to f***ing to run a meme page". I went back to look at my own page and realized I already am. That kind of stuff makes me laugh. My life is generally really funny but I'm usually the only one in on the joke.



  • Steve and Leo LaPorte both report that they don't believe that AV really does anything for you today other than give you a false sense of security. And over all I agree with this. As long as you are fully patched and paying attention to what you're doing, you're about as safe as you can be. AV catching something is more like just dumb luck than anticipated catch of malware.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    @Dashrender said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    What I find so damned funny - Steve Gibson preaches about how good old software is for being more secure because we've had time to beat on it, like his continued use of XP. But if we are to believe @scottalanmiller and that each new version of Windows is an evolution, Steve's continued push against moving to newer Windows versions because they are less secure is really stupid, yet at the same time, Steve is talking about moving to Chrome because it's newer, more modern ... it's just funny if you think about it.

    yes, I would say that he fundamentally doesn't understand how software maturity works and totally has no idea about how software gets made. XP isn't getting "honed" over time, it's just left to rot. If it were being regularly patched and maintained, there would be some value to the concept, but it is not. Windows 10 is the latest release that came from XP, not only with more and current patches, but with more than a decade more testing on it, more honing and major components upgrades when more secure ways of dealing with things were invented (or could be handled by the CPU.)

    I think his retort to that would be he's not worried about the old code, but the new code, the new features. It's kinda funny (again) he almost seems like a technophobe at times (I know I do at times) but then he's neck deep in it at the same time.

    He claims to have nothing to hide, as a public figure, like a news journalist, that he doesn't worry about using highly secure texting or email. While he loves Threema for their very secure messaging platform, he doesn't consider his need for privacy to be worth the hassle of trying to push this software upon his friends and family. So he's not willing to force this issue but at the same time, he's loudly refusing to use Windows 10 because of privacy concerns.


  • Service Provider

    @Dashrender said in Video plugin issue with fullscreen:

    Steve and Leo LaPorte both report that they don't believe that AV really does anything for you today other than give you a false sense of security. And over all I agree with this. As long as you are fully patched and paying attention to what you're doing, you're about as safe as you can be. AV catching something is more like just dumb luck than anticipated catch of malware.

    I get the false sense of security thing, a little. That's just about educating people not to be freaking idiots, though. If they think that, then there is no chance that they are doing the other things that they should be doing.

    For example, people who think this might also think that XP is safe. Clearly, my point is made. AV does protect you against some things and people who are avoiding it are in the tin foil hat crowd, in my opinion, and start doing insane things like running ancient code (read: immature code) because they don't think about how things really work and just start running off of emotions.


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