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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

      @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

      One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

      Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

      And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

      I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

        @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

        @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

        One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

        Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

        And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

        I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

        Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

        The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
          last edited by

          @aaronstuder said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

          @dafyre That's a scale problem. Once ML is a big as SW you have the same problem all over again.

          We've heard from several sources that there is more activity here, than there. At least in the "non watercooler" areas. If you watch at slow times when both sites are slow, ML is a little busier typically. If you watch the same post in both places, we see as much as 40x the traffic on the SW sites. Some big vendors and even some SW insiders have commented on how much busier ML is.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

            @aaronstuder said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

            @dafyre That's a scale problem. Once ML is a big as SW you have the same problem all over again.

            Well - good mods can really help with that.

            And bad ones will exacerbate it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
              last edited by

              @aaronstuder said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

              @dafyre That's a scale problem. Once ML is a big as SW you have the same problem all over again.

              I'm sure that scale is a factor, but there are very big different factors at play as well. How users are attracted is massively different. ML only attracts through people reading discussions or through word of mouth. SW primarily attracts through the recruitment of people using the free tool. Those are very different pools of users.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @RamblingBiped
                last edited by

                @RamblingBiped said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                The problem I'm finding with Spiceworks, in its current state, is that I'm not really learning anything anymore. It really doesn't have as much value as it did a few years ago when I was a bit greener. Most of the interesting threads are usually buried beneath a tenfold pile of redundancy. Even featured discussions/questions are frequently topics that have been discussed NUMEROUS times over the years.

                So many dead horses regularly being beaten into the the dirt.

                That's a good point. ML actually suffers in that people tend to learn material and let it go so the traffic goes way down because there isn't the insane banter of repeating unfounded points ad nauseum, ignoring thousands of supporting posts and threads and having to be shown how they missed even basic research over and over again. ML doesn't even have a single thread asking about RAID 5 or SAN, actually, that I can remember. On SW, it's bread and butter to rehash that same argument a few times a week.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                  last edited by

                  @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                  One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                  That was avoided on purpose. The same logic and discussion existed on SW, but the purpose of the communities was different. So the same logic of "this generates tons of garbage posts" meant it was ruled out for ML and ruled in for SW.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @anthonyh
                    last edited by

                    @anthonyh said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                    Also what drives me nuts is when people don't take the time to read the entire OP before responding. On SW more often than not I've had a lot of quick spastic replies to posts I've made and it's obvious they either didn't read the OP completely or did not understand what I was asking. They often feel like "points" posts.

                    Given that it is a "points community" and that there are specifically the biggest rewards for "post once per thread and don't bother to return to it" and "post quickly as early posts get more points" that behaviour that you see is exactly what they have designed the system to produce.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                      @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                      @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                      @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                      One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                      Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                      And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                      I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                      Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                      The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                      Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                        @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                        @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                        @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                        @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                        One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                        Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                        And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                        I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                        Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                        The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                        Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

                        no, that would go to the next nine then maybe - I was treating MLNews as it's own thing.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                          @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                          One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                          That was avoided on purpose. The same logic and discussion existed on SW, but the purpose of the communities was different. So the same logic of "this generates tons of garbage posts" meant it was ruled out for ML and ruled in for SW.

                          I assumed as much.

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                            One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                            Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                            And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                            I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                            Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                            The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                            Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

                            no, that would go to the next nine then maybe - I was treating MLNews as it's own thing.

                            Good, because I'm my own person with my own personality.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @mlnews
                              last edited by

                              @mlnews said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                              One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                              Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                              And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                              I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                              Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                              The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                              Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

                              no, that would go to the next nine then maybe - I was treating MLNews as it's own thing.

                              Good, because I'm my own person with my own personality.

                              You've failed to overcome my suspension of disbelief.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @mlnews said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                                Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                                And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                                I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                                Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                                The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                                Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

                                no, that would go to the next nine then maybe - I was treating MLNews as it's own thing.

                                Good, because I'm my own person with my own personality.

                                You've failed to overcome my suspension of disbelief.

                                I'm convinced.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @mlnews
                                  last edited by

                                  @mlnews said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @dafyre said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @Dashrender said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in If you don't question me, you don't respect me:

                                  One thing that may help out ML is that there is no rating system based on number of posts/etc. so you don't have people trying to "move up to the next level" so to speak by posting garbage.

                                  Speak for yourself - I'm trying for first place in the number of posts on ML category. 😛 Though considering Scott has more than 3 times as many posts as me.. probably won't happen in my lifetime.

                                  And for those that don't know... I'm totally joking!

                                  I tihnk @scottalanmiller has more than the rest of us in the top 10 combined, lol.

                                  Nope, the next 8 combines 😛

                                  The gap from 2nd to 3rd is nearly 2 to 1.

                                  Did you include the fact that I'm in first and eleventh places?

                                  no, that would go to the next nine then maybe - I was treating MLNews as it's own thing.

                                  Good, because I'm my own person with my own personality.

                                  @mlnews is a bot... or maybe @scottalanmiller is the bot... but then he posts pictures every now and again... but so does @mlnews.... Maybe one of them is related to Siri, and the other is related to Cortana?

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