Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?
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@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Why don't you want to use Sharepoint? It's free for the functionality you've listed, I believe.
Because the feature we want required paid Sharepoint. Fre version is not enough
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@LAH3385 said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@LAH3385 said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
ownCloud is, I think, the closest for you and is fully free and I have a deployment guide to follow for getting started.
Alfresco is decent for a lot of the web functionality of Sharepoint.
can you share the link.
http://mangolassi.it/topic/8399/installing-owncloud-9-on-centos-7/
Does it has to be CentOS? I now ownCloud9 no longer support Windows natively
Doesn't have to be, but why consider anything else? CentOS is a great platform and the recommended one from ownCloud.
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@LAH3385 said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Why don't you want to use Sharepoint? It's free for the functionality you've listed, I believe.
Because the feature we want required paid Sharepoint. Fre version is not enough
Did you list this feature and I missed it?
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@Dashrender said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@LAH3385 said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Why don't you want to use Sharepoint? It's free for the functionality you've listed, I believe.
Because the feature we want required paid Sharepoint. Fre version is not enough
Did you list this feature and I missed it?
I did not
This is from http://mangolassi.it/topic/8020/what-is-intranet-as-in-folder-structure where I asked about intranet. So now we are in full pursuit of this concept, aka sharepoint. We are looking for a version control, moderator rights (or power users), drag&drop ability, widget or plugins, authentication, etc. To me it sounds like we are creating a local website to announce events, forms, request, while act as file share as well.
We assigned one of our dev to do a test run on sharepoint (free). His report is that it is difficult to maintenance. He said that some features he need are only available on the paid version. I don't know if I should try sharepoint myself just to see what he meant, or go with what he said.So now we are going to have a demo with another vendor (https://www.interact-intranet.com/product/features/intelligent-intranet/). This intranet is not my project, but I feel that we are missing out on something. Paid version is not a problem as long as we receive support as well, thus sharepoint which is only for license is excluded (or at least that's what I think why it is excluded).
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You should at least find out which features are missing. That is likely important.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
You should at least find out which features are missing. That is likely important.
I will do that and update the thread.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
You should at least find out which features are missing. That is likely important.
Exactly - How can you provide options when you don't know what was missing before?
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Ignore this thread. I think I was misinformed. I will drive into Sharepoint Foundation and see what's the issue with it. Thanks all
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I think the biggest problem with Sharepoint Foundation, in terms of cost, is the database requirements i.e. it will only run with SQL Server.
SQL Server Express is free, but is pretty limited and doesn't really seem intended for production environments. In particular the fact that databases are limited to 10GB, which seems pretty tiny for a typical Sharepoint site. So you quickly end up needing SQL Server Standard edition, which is pretty expensive. If you don't have SQL Server already, you probably need to budget for that at the outset, even if you're only planning on using Sharepoint Foundation.
I'd like Microsoft to provide something in between Express and Standard, but I'm not allowed to criticise Microsoft on ML so I'll say no more
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@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
I'd like Microsoft to provide something in between Express and Standard, but I'm not allowed to criticise Microsoft on ML so I'll say no more
Don't they? What happened to Workgroup?
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SQL Server is coming on Linux now, too!
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@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
I'd like Microsoft to provide something in between Express and Standard, but I'm not allowed to criticise Microsoft on ML so I'll say no more
Don't they? What happened to Workgroup?
Oh, it got retired in 2012.
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Speaking as a non-techie, I don't particularly like the fact that with Sharepoint all files are stored in a database. We have another document management system that only stores metadata in a database, and the files themselves are stored in a flat file system. There's something about a flat file system that re-assures me. And it means that the database is very small, so SQL Server Express works fine.
It would be nice if Sharepoint had the option of working like this, if only to allow SQL Server Express to be used.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Speaking as a non-techie, I don't particularly like the fact that with Sharepoint all files are stored in a database. We have another document management system that only stores metadata in a database, and the files themselves are stored in a flat file system. There's something about a flat file system that re-assures me. And it means that the database is very small, so SQL Server Express works fine.
It would be nice if Sharepoint had the option of working like this, if only to allow SQL Server Express to be used.
If you think of the filesystem as a form of database, which it is, it kind of explains why the logic is here. And if you think of all of the money that Sharepoint makes by selling SQL Server licenses, it explains the rest of the logic
I agree with your assessment only insofar as the SQL Server requirement. If Sharepoint could use PostgreSQL for all of its document storage, or MongoDB, I'd love that it doesn't use the filesystem.
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Keep in mind that, for the moment, the SQL Server storage instead of the filesystem is a major stop gap between ransomware and Sharepoint storage.
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Not if the document management system doesn't expose the file system directly to users (which it shouldn't).
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@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Not if the document management system doesn't expose the file system directly to users (which it shouldn't).
Good point. Although... once they do that, you'd expect them to expose it for performance reasons. Not that they should, only that they would.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Keep in mind that, for the moment, the SQL Server storage instead of the filesystem is a major stop gap between ransomware and Sharepoint storage.
Wouldn't SP still be a stop gap between the users even if SP was on a filesystem? I would certainly hope that one wouldn't be directly accessing the filesystem when using SP...
Nevermind - already posted.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Not if the document management system doesn't expose the file system directly to users (which it shouldn't).
Good point. Although... once they do that, you'd expect them to expose it for performance reasons. Not that they should, only that they would.
well, then you're killing the point of SP. Once you can touch the filesystem, how would you expect SP to do it's job?
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@Dashrender said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@scottalanmiller said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
@Carnival-Boy said in Sharepoint-like application that doesn't cost a huge fortune?:
Not if the document management system doesn't expose the file system directly to users (which it shouldn't).
Good point. Although... once they do that, you'd expect them to expose it for performance reasons. Not that they should, only that they would.
well, then you're killing the point of SP. Once you can touch the filesystem, how would you expect SP to do it's job?
Same as if you can touch the DB, which often people enable
