Virtualize W2003 R2 licensing problem.
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@Dashrender said:
@iroal said:
@Dashrender said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(
If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.
I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.
Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.
I've spend days trying to create at least a portable version for Navision Client, and It was impossible.
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@iroal I am wondering if VMware ThinApp could help you to run Navision Client on W2008
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Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?
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@Dashrender said:
Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?
Yes It's the typical Server/Client Application.
Server only works in W2000 W2003 and client in W2000 or Xp.It's not possible to upgrade because of all the change done in the original model, next version Navison 4.0 can be install in W7 and W2008.
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i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so
Even if it doesn't require re-activation, he's still legally required to have a license for it.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so
Was it under OEM license?
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@JaredBusch I thought OEM license binds you to specific hardware. So if you move OS off that server the license is still legally owned, but will prohibit you from running OS on another server
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Correct. OEM lives and dies on the machine it was first installed on. It's not transferable. I think what Jared was saying is that it doesn't matter whether it activates or not - that's irrelevant as to whether it is legal or not. Just because it activates doesn't mean it is legal.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Correct. OEM lives and dies on the machine it was first installed on. It's not transferable. I think what Jared was saying is that it doesn't matter whether it activates or not - that's irrelevant as to whether it is legal or not. Just because it activates doesn't mean it is legal.
Exactly.
More specifically - MS doesn't specifically go out of its way to deactivate. If it deactivation happens, it happens, if not - that's fine too. But licensing has mostly always been on the honor system.
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@Dashrender said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Correct. OEM lives and dies on the machine it was first installed on. It's not transferable. I think what Jared was saying is that it doesn't matter whether it activates or not - that's irrelevant as to whether it is legal or not. Just because it activates doesn't mean it is legal.
Exactly.
More specifically - MS doesn't specifically go out of its way to deactivate. If it deactivation happens, it happens, if not - that's fine too. But licensing has mostly always been on the honor system.
All correct, but specifically, I meant that he can just P2V the server on to the new hardware and simply buy another OEM license from eBay or whatever and still be legal. Assuming, of course, that the eBay seller was legit and the license they sold was legal in the first place.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Correct. OEM lives and dies on the machine it was first installed on. It's not transferable. I think what Jared was saying is that it doesn't matter whether it activates or not - that's irrelevant as to whether it is legal or not. Just because it activates doesn't mean it is legal.
Exactly.
More specifically - MS doesn't specifically go out of its way to deactivate. If it deactivation happens, it happens, if not - that's fine too. But licensing has mostly always been on the honor system.
All correct, but specifically, I meant that he can just P2V the server on to the new hardware and simply buy another OEM license from eBay or whatever and still be legal. Assuming, of course, that the eBay seller was legit and the license they sold was legal in the first place.
Hey - what do you know.. we're on the same page - (using most happiest tone possible - really I am)
