Oh Cali - Way to over react
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@DustinB3403 It gets really tiring playing whack a mole with stupid ideas from politicians, I'm about ready to start whacking something other than ideas.
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@travisdh1 wooh that sounds dirty.
I'm telling on you
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@DustinB3403 said:
@travisdh1 wooh that sounds dirty.
I'm telling on you
Haven't you learned that my brain has no filter?
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Oh brother - I wonder how many devices Apple and Samsung, among other phone manufacturers actually sell direct to consumers? I know you can buy an iPhone in the Apple Store, and when a new one hits, those stores sell a lot, but are most sold there?
The law needs to include a fine by whomever is selling the device in California as well. Otherwise as the article mentions, Apple will be beholden to AT&T, etc for selling devices in a market that has this problem.
Frankly I want to see Apple come straight out and say they will not sell an iPhone in California as of Jan 1, 2017 if this law passes and see if the California voter pool revolts against the government because they can't get their shiny new toy.
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Do you think this would affect non cellular phone, but cellular data devices? What about non cellular, yet mobile devices, like WiFi only iPads?
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Oh this law states directly that even if some guy sells a phone from the back of his Van that can't be decrypted that the manufacture is to pay the fine.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Oh this law states directly that even if some guy sells a phone from the back of his Van that can't be decrypted that the manufacture is to pay the fine.
In that situation, you'd be hard pressed to prove where the phone was sold, unless you have evidence of that, say pictures, etc.
Huh - I wonder how this affects the secondary market? So, what you're saying is, if I sold a iPhone 6 a now 2 year old phone used after Jan 1 while in Cali... Apple would find themselves in hot water over this device.
At minimum there needs to be a grandfather clause for used devices.
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@Dashrender Yep, any phone that can't be cracked that is sold in Cali after this day by any means, puts the manufacture in hot water to pay a $2500 fine per incident.
Which is insane, I guess Cali doesn't want new devices?
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender Yep, any phone that can't be cracked that is sold in Cali after this day by any means, puts the manufacture in hot water to pay a $2500 fine per incident.
Which is insane, I guess Cali doesn't want new devices?
As you said, new or old.. it wouldn't matter. Huh - Would Apple move their headquarters out of Cali if shit happens?
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I think we should just get a crap ton of explosives and blow Cali out into the middle of the ocean, since they want to pull crap like this.
Can we try and put some sort of congress retreat in place and get the rest of the politicians there at the same time...?
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@DustinB3403 said:
I think we should just get a crap ton of explosives and blow Cali out into the middle of the ocean, since they want to pull crap like this.
Can we try and put some sort of congress retreat in place and get the rest of the politicians there at the same time...?
New York is no different though!
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@Dashrender I know, that's why I proposed the Congress Retreat.
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@Dashrender said:
Oh brother - I wonder how many devices Apple and Samsung, among other phone manufacturers actually sell direct to consumers? I know you can buy an iPhone in the Apple Store, and when a new one hits, those stores sell a lot, but are most sold there?
The law needs to include a fine by whomever is selling the device in California as well. Otherwise as the article mentions, Apple will be beholden to AT&T, etc for selling devices in a market that has this problem.
Frankly I want to see Apple come straight out and say they will not sell an iPhone in California as of Jan 1, 2017 if this law passes and see if the California voter pool revolts against the government because they can't get their shiny new toy.
They would just buy it somewhere else. Like Amazon. California is a big state but there is always another city nearby. There will be a hot market in Nevada and Oregon phone sales. They will become the world's biggest third party cell phone sellers.
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@Dashrender said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender Yep, any phone that can't be cracked that is sold in Cali after this day by any means, puts the manufacture in hot water to pay a $2500 fine per incident.
Which is insane, I guess Cali doesn't want new devices?
As you said, new or old.. it wouldn't matter. Huh - Would Apple move their headquarters out of Cali if shit happens?
They need to move out of the US if they want to be dedicated to security.
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Just PR to make people distrust California and not want to live there
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Kind of like how the UK pulled that PR stunt about leaving the EU. All they did was make everyone question if they even wanted them here.
