Company's TV - Show your own stuff during commercials?



  • We have a few TV's in the office with cable service. Is it possible to cut out the adds and put in our own stuff? Nothing extravagant, maybe weather or company news.

    Don't much care if it's not live real time (5 minute offset or something is cool).



  • There are Ad companies that allow you to do this, a pizza shop in our area has this on their TV.

    They get local news or whatever and have the TV setup to show their ads etc. Joe's Brooklyn in Rochester NY.



  • Interesting - so you'd have to some some type of logic box that could tell when ads were playing - swap the video out source to one it controls, then cut back to cable when the ads were over.

    Without some sort of DVR ability I it won't be seamless.



  • @Dashrender said:

    Interesting - so you'd have to some some type of logic box that could tell when ads were playing - swap the video out source to one it controls, then cut back to cable when the ads were over.

    Without some sort of DVR ability I it won't be seamless.

    I've not owned any cable tv stuff since TIVO was brand spanking new so I'm very out of the loop of what's possible.

    I figured the solution would be something like you describe; small time shift to detect commercials and then overlay a powerpoint or something. Is this actually a thing?



  • @MattSpeller I'm not sure how hard this is to actually implement, but I know that my old Windows Media Center had a plugin that would automatically detect commercials and remove them. Apparently something is available to insert your own content rather than just removing commercials.

    If I remember correctly the plugin I was using would look for a single black screen of some sort that is meant to tell the local cable company that it's time to play commercials.



  • @travisdh1 said:

    @MattSpeller I'm not sure how hard this is to actually implement, but I know that my old Windows Media Center had a plugin that would automatically detect commercials and remove them. Apparently something is available to insert your own content rather than just removing commercials.

    If I remember correctly the plugin I was using would look for a single black screen of some sort that is meant to tell the local cable company that it's time to play commercials.

    Now we're getting somewhere



  • @travisdh1 said:

    @MattSpeller I'm not sure how hard this is to actually implement, but I know that my old Windows Media Center had a plugin that would automatically detect commercials and remove them. Apparently something is available to insert your own content rather than just removing commercials.

    If I remember correctly the plugin I was using would look for a single black screen of some sort that is meant to tell the local cable company that it's time to play commercials.

    Lifextender?



  • @wirestyle22 said:

    @travisdh1 said:

    @MattSpeller I'm not sure how hard this is to actually implement, but I know that my old Windows Media Center had a plugin that would automatically detect commercials and remove them. Apparently something is available to insert your own content rather than just removing commercials.

    If I remember correctly the plugin I was using would look for a single black screen of some sort that is meant to tell the local cable company that it's time to play commercials.

    Lifextender?

    Sounds familiar. It's been a long time since I sold that system after we dropped cable.


  • Banned

    Depending on how it's source for the TV you may be in violation of your contract to do so.


  • Banned

    So let me get this right.

    You want to watch ____ on TV.

    But you want to replace the incredibly expensive multi million dollar advertising revenues that they receive, with something of your choice?

    I sense a flaw with this plan.



  • @Breffni-Potter said:

    So let me get this right.

    You want to watch ____ on TV.

    But you want to replace the incredibly expensive multi million dollar advertising revenues that they receive, with something of your choice?

    I sense a flaw with this plan.

    Correct haha



  • @MattSpeller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    Interesting - so you'd have to some some type of logic box that could tell when ads were playing - swap the video out source to one it controls, then cut back to cable when the ads were over.

    Without some sort of DVR ability I it won't be seamless.

    I've not owned any cable tv stuff since TIVO was brand spanking new so I'm very out of the loop of what's possible.

    I figured the solution would be something like you describe; small time shift to detect commercials and then overlay a powerpoint or something. Is this actually a thing?

    TiVo - Oh my,.. I have an upgraded Series 1 and a 3,.. Been on DirecTV for a while now so both are collecting dust.



  • I'm not sure if it exists for TV, but I know you can not do this with audio legally. You can play a local radio station in your lobby for example, because that station is paying rights to that music and paying "jukebox fee's." If you buy music, and replay it in your business and you are not paying the recording industry you will get hit with a fine eventually. I have seen cigar lounges, restaurants, and retail stores all hit by people that make money on the side by collecting bounties for turning in businesses. That being said, I have never heard of it happening with television, but I am guessing it comes up in that "This broadcast can not be retransmitted with out express written consent" junk that pops up before a sporting event.



  • As an employee I think I a would be more annoyed seeing and hearing my company's own commercials at work on a constant basis.



  • @MattSpeller What are they watching out of curiousity? Couldn't you use a Roku instead of paying for cable? Netflix in a lounge would be amazing 😃



  • @gjacobse said:

    @MattSpeller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    Interesting - so you'd have to some some type of logic box that could tell when ads were playing - swap the video out source to one it controls, then cut back to cable when the ads were over.

    Without some sort of DVR ability I it won't be seamless.

    I've not owned any cable tv stuff since TIVO was brand spanking new so I'm very out of the loop of what's possible.

    I figured the solution would be something like you describe; small time shift to detect commercials and then overlay a powerpoint or something. Is this actually a thing?

    TiVo - Oh my,.. I have an upgraded Series 1 and a 3,.. Been on DirecTV for a while now so both are collecting dust.

    yeah I retired my Series 1 probably 7 years ago... Love the interface - but with cable - it was pointless.



  • @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?



  • @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    "While patients waiting on a root canal might enjoy watching "House of Cards" or "Orange Is the New Black," Netflix's terms of use apparently do not allow for any commercial use of any account."

    Oh. Wow.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    Legalities of using netflix on a company tv? I don't see any issues. It's not like employees can sit their for hours and watch whatever.



  • @wirestyle22 said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    "While patients waiting on a root canal might enjoy watching "House of Cards" or "Orange Is the New Black," Netflix's terms of use apparently do not allow for any commercial use of any account."

    Oh. Wow.

    Exactly... Didn't think they would.



  • @IRJ said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    Legalities of using netflix on a company tv? I don't see any issues. It's not like employees can sit their for hours and watch whatever.

    It's a business use. For example, You can't legally play radio over your PA system without paying licensing fees.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    "While patients waiting on a root canal might enjoy watching "House of Cards" or "Orange Is the New Black," Netflix's terms of use apparently do not allow for any commercial use of any account."

    Oh. Wow.

    Exactly... Didn't think they would.

    A tip of the hat to you sir. That's weird to me. I can have 20 people in my place watching Netflix with me. What's the difference? Do they think it's being used as a selling point for a business? I guess restaurants and stuff.

    At this point I'd just create my own Netflix using Plex. I have 150 down/150 up fiber at home.


  • Banned

    @IRJ said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    Legalities of using netflix on a company tv? I don't see any issues. It's not like employees can sit their for hours and watch whatever.

    But Netflix does.

    The Netflix service, and any content viewed through our service, are for your personal and non-commercial use only. During your Netflix membership, we grant you a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, license to access the Netflix service and view movies and TV shows through the service on a streaming-only basis for that purpose. Except for the foregoing limited license, no right, title or interest shall be transferred to you. You agree not to use the service for public performances.

    https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse?locale=en&docType=termsofuse


  • Banned

    @Dashrender said:

    @IRJ said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    Legalities of using netflix on a company tv? I don't see any issues. It's not like employees can sit their for hours and watch whatever.

    It's a business use. For example, You can't legally play radio over your PA system without paying licensing fees.

    Depends on what you mean buy Radio. There are services for this. Mood media being the most popular: http://us.moodmedia.com/



  • @Jason said:

    @IRJ said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @wirestyle22 I wonder what the legalities of that are?

    Legalities of using netflix on a company tv? I don't see any issues. It's not like employees can sit their for hours and watch whatever.

    But Netflix does.

    The Netflix service, and any content viewed through our service, are for your personal and non-commercial use only. During your Netflix membership, we grant you a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, license to access the Netflix service and view movies and TV shows through the service on a streaming-only basis for that purpose. Except for the foregoing limited license, no right, title or interest shall be transferred to you. You agree not to use the service for public performances.

    https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse?locale=en&docType=termsofuse

    http://trainingcontractexperts.sfcleats.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/shutterstock_132328148.jpg


  • Banned

    @wirestyle22 said:

    At this point I'd just create my own Netflix using Plex. I have 150 down/150 up fiber at home.

    You'd still need commercial use licenses for showing the movies. The rule doesn't come from netflix themsevles but the content creators. Buy a DVD at walmart? That's for private showings at home home only.



  • @Jason said:

    @wirestyle22 said:

    At this point I'd just create my own Netflix using Plex. I have 150 down/150 up fiber at home.

    You'd still need commercial use licenses for showing the movies. The rule doesn't come from netflix themsevles but the content creators. Buy a DVD at walmart? That's for private showings at home home only.

    I wonder what obligations you are under to show content in a business that is not for profit.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @gjacobse said:

    @MattSpeller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    Interesting - so you'd have to some some type of logic box that could tell when ads were playing - swap the video out source to one it controls, then cut back to cable when the ads were over.

    Without some sort of DVR ability I it won't be seamless.

    I've not owned any cable tv stuff since TIVO was brand spanking new so I'm very out of the loop of what's possible.

    I figured the solution would be something like you describe; small time shift to detect commercials and then overlay a powerpoint or something. Is this actually a thing?

    TiVo - Oh my,.. I have an upgraded Series 1 and a 3,.. Been on DirecTV for a while now so both are collecting dust.

    yeah I retired my Series 1 probably 7 years ago... Love the interface - but with cable - it was pointless.

    I had done the nifty 'mega' upgrade to it. Hacked the system by adding a NIC card, more memory and Hard drive. I could control it from any computer in the house,.. and using (I don't remember the software) download shows to watch elsewhere.

    But don't really need that now either. Oh and of course, both units are Lifetime subscriptions..



  • @Jason

    Q: We don’t charge admission. Do we still need a license?
    A: Yes. A license is required regardless of whether an admission fee is charged. However, the Umbrella License covers only those situations where admission is not charged.

    Q: We’re a non-profit organization. Do we still need a license?
    A: Yes. Under the law, it doesn’t matter if you’re a non-profit or for-profit organization. You are required to have a public performance license to show motion pictures and other audiovisual works.


  • Banned

    @wirestyle22 said:

    @Jason said:

    @wirestyle22 said:

    At this point I'd just create my own Netflix using Plex. I have 150 down/150 up fiber at home.

    You'd still need commercial use licenses for showing the movies. The rule doesn't come from netflix themsevles but the content creators. Buy a DVD at walmart? That's for private showings at home home only.

    I wonder what obligations you are under to show content in a business that is not for profit.

    Doesn't matter if it's for public viewing.. It needs a license. You will usually need to buy them on a per movie basis.


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