Windows Phone :(
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.
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@johnhooks said:
The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.
The problem is, Android users always make claims like "oh, back then it didn't work..." which is exactly what next year they will say about this year. Everything with Android is an excuse. There is always a reason why "your" Android didn't work. Bottom line remains, it doesn't work. It's an excuse generation platform. Everyone has that "one magic vendor, one magic device with one magic app" that kinda works "for them" and they defend the platform as being awesome because that one use case works... sometimes.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
re's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs
Me either I only use the Fire Stick when I can't get something on the apple tv and don't want to deal with Airplay.
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@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
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@Minion-Queen said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.
We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs
Yup, we've always love the AppleTV. The one problem is that they won't play Amazon videos or we would be getting yet another AppleTV with which to travel. They work great. But they just lack the functionality we need.
So testing out the NVidia Shield this summer.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.
We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.
Huh I really don't have any issues with mine at all. Other than I like the apple tv interface so much better.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.
No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.
There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.
No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.
There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.
Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.
No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.
There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.
Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.
That's it!!
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@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.
No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.
There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.
The email app "worked" fine for a long time. But like phone calls and texts and everything else on Android, it would randomly and silently stop working and never alert you. It would keep reporting that you got no email until you rebooted teh device and found out that people had been looking for you for days.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.
I send stuff from my Chromebook a lot so I don't really notice it I guess. You can also cast your whole screen with your Chromebook which is nice.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.
The problem is, Android users always make claims like "oh, back then it didn't work..." which is exactly what next year they will say about this year. Everything with Android is an excuse. There is always a reason why "your" Android didn't work. Bottom line remains, it doesn't work. It's an excuse generation platform. Everyone has that "one magic vendor, one magic device with one magic app" that kinda works "for them" and they defend the platform as being awesome because that one use case works... sometimes.
This is starting to sound like a rant on Windows - How much of this is the platform/OS versus crappy apps? I'm not defending Android (at this point) because mostly I agree - Even my Samsung S4, which was suppose to be awesome crashed on a regular basis (at least two times a month). I didn't nearly the issues making phone calls anymore. At least that problem seems pretty much gone.
I give you the point that iPhones seem to be more stable - but they are definitely not the never crash, never have problem device either.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.
I love the idea... and for travel even moreso. But I hate how they dangle. Other than the space in the luggage, I prefer the small set top boxes. Easier to set up and place. And you can wire them up.
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@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.
I send stuff from my Chromebook a lot so I don't really notice it I guess. You can also cast your whole screen with your Chromebook which is nice.
Yep, and from a normal computer. They also recently added the ability to cast HTML5 video which is really nice. I don't mind it I always have my phone on me... but my wife doesn't and feels like it is just an extra step to watching the shows she wants.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.
No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.
I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.
There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.
Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.
I love Touchdown! keep all the work shit in it's on VM on the device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.
Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.
I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.
You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?
Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.
I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.
We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.
The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.
I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.
I love the idea... and for travel even moreso. But I hate how they dangle. Other than the space in the luggage, I prefer the small set top boxes. Easier to set up and place. And you can wire them up.
Dangle? Huh I don't have that problem.
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@Dashrender said:
I give you the point that iPhones seem to be more stable - but they are definitely not the never crash, never have problem device either.
Nothing is. But the difference is staggering. I've easily had more issues in a week on Windows Phone and Android than half a decade on iPhone.
To be clear, I've had iPhone have complete mechanical failure and burn itself to toast without any fault of mine (Apple replaced it on the spot for free.) But I've had single days with more Android crashes than I've ever had iPhone crashes.
