ASUS gets their butt handed to them by the feds
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This quote is perfect for the "do I need a firewall today" people:
"The Internet of Things is growing by leaps and bounds, with millions of consumers connecting smart devices to their home networks," said Jessica Rich, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "Routers play a key role in securing those home networks, so it's critical that companies like ASUS put reasonable security in place to protect consumers and their personal information."
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Tip of the iceberg if they really want to go at it.
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So besides the fact that ASUS is paying through the nose for this, what do the end consumers get?
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@DustinB3403 said:
So besides the fact that ASUS is paying through the nose for this, what do the end consumers get?
AHAHahahahahahaha, that's a good joke
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@MattSpeller So just the entire shaft eh?
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@DustinB3403 said:
So besides the fact that ASUS is paying through the nose for this, what do the end consumers get?
Hopefully better security in the future.
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@Nic And what about the current shit-show of products that are out there now? Oh we have to buy another product from you?
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@DustinB3403 said:
So besides the fact that ASUS is paying through the nose for this, what do the end consumers get?
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper. It's rough to expect consumers to have a clue or do things well, but we are talking about security and basic home infrastructure and if you don't take the minimum effort well... too bad. Like any field, the consumer stuff is always crappy and a rip off. If that's a something trivial, then whatever. If it is a security device, you are just asking for problems.
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@scottalanmiller but Scott, at the same time, you honestly can't expect the majority of people to know the different between their asshole and a hole in the ground.
So why would you expect them to know the difference here?
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I definitely think there is a trend here at ML for the consumer to "know better", but how are they supposed to know anything?
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@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
That partially is true. The new APs can be controlled with a phone. You can just scan the QR code on the back to add it.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
That's a good point. But still the extra cost is minimal, $20 tops, right, and the functionality is vastly improved.
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@johnhooks said:
That partially is true. The new APs can be controlled with a phone. You can just scan the QR code on the back to add it.
Slick
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
That's a good point. But still the extra cost is minimal, $20 tops, right, and the functionality is vastly improved.
Well, there's the extra cost of the installation - I don't think normal consumers can install an ERX and UAP. it's not trivial.
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@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
That partially is true. The new APs can be controlled with a phone. You can just scan the QR code on the back to add it.
have you tried that yet? that will be slick. Does it require an existing LAN to make work? or does the phone talk directly to the UAP via wireless for setup?
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@Dashrender said:
Well, there's the extra cost of the installation - I don't think normal consumers can install an ERX and UAP. it's not trivial.
With the new updates, how much goes into setting up an ERX for the first time? Is there really that much to it?
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have little pity for people buying consumer routers when things like Ubiquiti are the same price or cheaper.
is that true though? An EdgeRouterX costs $49 and an Unifi AC Lite costs $89, so $138 for a router/AP setup. Pretty sure you can pretty regularly pickup a consumer all in one for under $99.
Plus setting up a ERX and UAP is not what I call trivial. Additionally you can't control a UAP from a wireless device, you have to use a wired device, or a wirelsss device that accesses the network through another AP to manage one (not the end of the world, once it's setup you rarely need to touch it again, other than to update it).
That partially is true. The new APs can be controlled with a phone. You can just scan the QR code on the back to add it.
have you tried that yet? that will be slick. Does it require an existing LAN to make work? or does the phone talk directly to the UAP via wireless for setup?
I haven't. I was going to add my existing one to my phone, but they don't support the older models yet. I kind of want to buy an AP-AC-LITE to do it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, there's the extra cost of the installation - I don't think normal consumers can install an ERX and UAP. it's not trivial.
With the new updates, how much goes into setting up an ERX for the first time? Is there really that much to it?
I just downloaded the 1.7 update and uploaded it to the router. It was pretty easy. Then just ran through the wizard.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, there's the extra cost of the installation - I don't think normal consumers can install an ERX and UAP. it's not trivial.
With the new updates, how much goes into setting up an ERX for the first time? Is there really that much to it?
I haven't setup a new one - maybe they have improved the interface.
