ASUS gets their butt handed to them by the feds
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@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender That seems insane that every Modem/ Router provider would be creating a custom account that the ISP could use to access a personally owned device..
And (from the UK point of view) certainly a legal grey area at best...
Well the ISPs in the US certainly didn't like when home routers first came out - I heard grumblings about trying to make it illegal - luckily it never went anywhere.
The ISPs were more missed because two computers (or more) would use more bandwidth, and by using a router they weren't selling you another IP.I remember that. They were advertising connections and said they were for 1 computer and you had to pay for additional devices.
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@Minion-Queen said:
I like my Asus monitor it's pretty nice.
All I buy for our office. I must have purchased 150 over the past few years. Only had 3 crap out just after the 3-year warranty.
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@wrx7m said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I like my Asus monitor it's pretty nice.
All I buy for our office. I must have purchased 150 over the past few years. Only had 3 crap out just after the 3-year warranty.
I've always had good luck with them. I generally buy Asus when looking for quality and Acer when I need something cheap.
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@coliver said:
@wrx7m said:
@Minion-Queen said:
I like my Asus monitor it's pretty nice.
All I buy for our office. I must have purchased 150 over the past few years. Only had 3 crap out just after the 3-year warranty.
I've always had good luck with them. I generally buy Asus when looking for quality and Acer when I need something cheap.
I try to avoid cheap
5 and a half years ago, when I first started here, the sales personnel were issued acer netbooks that they got from the AT&T store! 1GB of RAM running Windows 7 home. SMH. I was very popular when I started rolling out the Lenovo ThinkPads with 8GB of RAM. -
Unlike consumer level routers, the edgerouter lite I have didn't come with NAT setup by default, took me a bit to figure out how to set it up properly for NAT. I would say there is no way the average consumer can set one up.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
Unlike consumer level routers, the edgerouter lite I have didn't come with NAT setup by default, took me a bit to figure out how to set it up properly for NAT. I would say there is no way the average consumer can set one up.
How old is yours? I'm pretty sure that wizard steps you through that.
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I just bought it a few weeks ago... I never saw a wizard... maybe I missed it.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
I just bought it a few weeks ago... I never saw a wizard... maybe I missed it.
there has been one at least since the 1.6 series was released.
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@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
Huh? The TV's..?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
You have to pay a tax based on the number of TVs in your house. They can audit you at will if they don't think you're being legit about it.
Wow. Big brother style!
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@brianlittlejohn said:
I just bought it a few weeks ago... I never saw a wizard... maybe I missed it.
yeah it's not automatic... you have to click it. it's last tab on the page, all the way to the right.
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I think I am going to pull the trigger on the ERX. Are you guys running a separate firewall?
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@wrx7m said:
@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
Huh? The TV's..?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
You have to pay a tax based on the number of TVs in your house. They can audit you at will if they don't think you're being legit about it.
Wow. Big brother style!
I know, right? There is no such thing as free TV in the UK. You pick up those broadcasts, you're payin'!
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@Dashrender How much is the tax?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
I just bought it a few weeks ago... I never saw a wizard... maybe I missed it.
there has been one at least since the 1.6 series was released.
That explains it... mine shipped with like 1.2 on it. I see the wizard now.
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@wrx7m said:
I think I am going to pull the trigger on the ERX. Are you guys running a separate firewall?
Separate from what? The ERX is the firewall (yeah it's called a router, but it has firewall features, and that's what most people use it for, is a firewall).
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@Dashrender Right, just seeing if people were using anything in addition to it. So as far as the POE pass-through... What do I need to get to power a UAC AP?
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@coliver said:
I think we need someone with experience to weigh in on how this works. From my knowledge they use a DHCP-esque system and do MAC reservations to set addresses. @PSX_Defector may have some inside knowledge though. Certainly TWC hasn't, at least to my knowledge, logged into the modem to set it up. They get the MAC address then plug it into the network.
There are multiple systems at play, but you are for the most part correct.
The start of everything is CMTS. Most people are using Cisco CMTS boxes nowadays, although I really only deal with TWC and Comcast for the most part. People like CableONE or Mediacomm might do things differently. But from my experience, most of the systems are fairly similar from different vendors.
The CMTS has a private VLAN'd network, 10.x or something like that, which sends traffic across for authentication and provisioning. This encompasses much of the newer environments within cable systems. It also handles things like CableCARD and set top boxes.
There are two things CMTS looks at to determine what it needs to do. The MAC and the serial. MAC address is obvious, need it to fetch an IP. The serial then determines if the device is allowed onto the network. From there, it will establish the allowed services; internet, HBO, or like at my house all the porn channels. This sends the token over to the device to allow it to descramble whatever it is accessing. Internet access is given the go-ahead to talk to the public VLAN, read if there is a lease on the MAC already, then issue an IP out.
This is usually the only thing that the ISP does. Very few actually configure the device beyond that. Many don't even have access to that side of the device. Some vendors do, like Pace or even Arris. But only very limited things.
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@PSX_Defector said:
@coliver said:
I think we need someone with experience to weigh in on how this works. From my knowledge they use a DHCP-esque system and do MAC reservations to set addresses. @PSX_Defector may have some inside knowledge though. Certainly TWC hasn't, at least to my knowledge, logged into the modem to set it up. They get the MAC address then plug it into the network.
There are multiple systems at play, but you are for the most part correct.
The start of everything is CMTS. Most people are using Cisco CMTS boxes nowadays, although I really only deal with TWC and Comcast for the most part. People like CableONE or Mediacomm might do things differently. But from my experience, most of the systems are fairly similar from different vendors.
The CMTS has a private VLAN'd network, 10.x or something like that, which sends traffic across for authentication and provisioning. This encompasses much of the newer environments within cable systems. It also handles things like CableCARD and set top boxes.
There are two things CMTS looks at to determine what it needs to do. The MAC and the serial. MAC address is obvious, need it to fetch an IP. The serial then determines if the device is allowed onto the network. From there, it will establish the allowed services; internet, HBO, or like at my house all the porn channels. This sends the token over to the device to allow it to descramble whatever it is accessing. Internet access is given the go-ahead to talk to the public VLAN, read if there is a lease on the MAC already, then issue an IP out.
This is usually the only thing that the ISP does. Very few actually configure the device beyond that. Many don't even have access to that side of the device. Some vendors do, like Pace or even Arris. But only very limited things.
Awesome explanation. Thank you!
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@johnhooks said:
Here's what it looks like now. Ignore the eth dialog box, it was stuck there for some reason. The second image is the wizard you run through. It's really easy to set up.
What OS distro is that? Looks good.
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@BBigford said:
@johnhooks said:
Here's what it looks like now. Ignore the eth dialog box, it was stuck there for some reason. The second image is the wizard you run through. It's really easy to set up.
What OS distro is that? Looks good.
Fedora 23 with Gnome 3.
