Software Defined WAN
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@Each1teach1x27 said:
That makes sense @scottalanmiller. Thanks for the feedback
No problem.
The idea is sound (even if vendors paying for Gartner are not) but definitely a big business concept. In the SMB, we don't need those things. We have SD-WAN in far more convenient ways and have for decades. It's something that you can be leveraging today for free or cheap. I've been building those for a very long time. MPLS is rarely needed.
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ZeroTier and Pertino are both software packages that prefer to be installed on every device on your network. That obviously can't be the case for things like printers, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said:
NTG was doing a pretty elaborate SDWan by 2001 with dedicated hardware at every site and home.
These days, if you want this, often the best choices are things like ZeroTier and Pertino.
Do you need any hardware for ZeroTier? It's entirely done through software? I might use this for my single PC group homes. My company won't buy any new hardware for them unless things break.
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Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
NTG was doing a pretty elaborate SDWan by 2001 with dedicated hardware at every site and home.
These days, if you want this, often the best choices are things like ZeroTier and Pertino.
Do you need any hardware for ZeroTier? It's entirely done through software? I might use this for my single PC group homes. My company won't buy any new hardware for them unless things break.
ZeroTier is totally done in software. It does require a computing device (PC or Mac). It won't work on Switches and Printers.
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@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
NTG was doing a pretty elaborate SDWan by 2001 with dedicated hardware at every site and home.
These days, if you want this, often the best choices are things like ZeroTier and Pertino.
Do you need any hardware for ZeroTier? It's entirely done through software? I might use this for my single PC group homes. My company won't buy any new hardware for them unless things break.
ZeroTier is totally done in software. It does require a computing device (PC or Mac). It won't work on Switches and Printers.
Even if you're printing using something like Tricerat Screwdrivers?
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@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
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@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
NTG was doing a pretty elaborate SDWan by 2001 with dedicated hardware at every site and home.
These days, if you want this, often the best choices are things like ZeroTier and Pertino.
Do you need any hardware for ZeroTier? It's entirely done through software? I might use this for my single PC group homes. My company won't buy any new hardware for them unless things break.
ZeroTier is totally done in software. It does require a computing device (PC or Mac). It won't work on Switches and Printers.
Even if you're printing using something like Tricerat Screwdrivers?
I actually don't know what Tricerat Screwdrivers are. But chances are, your printer will actually not be on the ZeroTier network, so you still won't be able to print unless you are on the same network as the printer. [This is true of all printers]
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@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
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@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards. What do you think @scottalanmiller
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards.
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
They do? Nice!
I know they have binaries for Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android. You can build it yourself on other platforms (*BSD, and a few others).
Building from source isn't too bad on Linux.
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@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards.
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
They do? Nice!
I know they have binaries for Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android. You can build it yourself on other platforms (*BSD, and a few others).
Building from source isn't too bad on Linux.
Whenever I have a free minute I'm going to make this into a project. I just wish the Raspi were POE compatible.
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I totally need to get a RPi.
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@dafyre said:
I totally need to get a RPi.
I use them for scrolling marketing displays, honeypots, security cameras etc. They're great.
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http://www.raspberry-pi-geek.com/Archive/2013/01/Converting-the-Raspberry-Pi-to-a-wireless-print-server FYI--doesnt have to be wireless obv
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@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards.
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
They do? Nice!
I know they have binaries for Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android. You can build it yourself on other platforms (*BSD, and a few others).
Building from source isn't too bad on Linux.
Whenever I have a free minute I'm going to make this into a project. I just wish the Raspi were POE compatible.
Like @wirestyle22 linked you, all you need to make a Raspi PoE is a converter on the Pi's end.
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@travisdh1 said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards.
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
They do? Nice!
I know they have binaries for Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android. You can build it yourself on other platforms (*BSD, and a few others).
Building from source isn't too bad on Linux.
Whenever I have a free minute I'm going to make this into a project. I just wish the Raspi were POE compatible.
Like @wirestyle22 linked you, all you need to make a Raspi PoE is a converter on the Pi's end.
I've seen them but have no experience with them. Have you done this yourself?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@travisdh1 said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Is it possible to use this in conjunction with a File Server to provide an alternative means of accessing and also provide domain authentication or am I way off base here?
That is pretty much what ZeroTier is for. The easiest way to use it though, is an all-or-nothing approach. Every computer runs it (AD Domain Controller, DNS servers, Workstations, Laptops). Otherwise, you get fun issues with DNS returning wrong IP addresses.
You mean even domain connected workstations? Is this just for mapping purposes?
Pretty much, yes. There are other ways you can do it and not have to install ZT on everybody's computer... but it can muddy the waters a bit.
If ZeroTier is linux compatible I wonder if you could turn a Raspberry Pi into an external NIC kind of like external hp jet direct cards.
Update: Oh my god they even have it for Rasbian.
They do? Nice!
I know they have binaries for Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android. You can build it yourself on other platforms (*BSD, and a few others).
Building from source isn't too bad on Linux.
Whenever I have a free minute I'm going to make this into a project. I just wish the Raspi were POE compatible.
Like @wirestyle22 linked you, all you need to make a Raspi PoE is a converter on the Pi's end.
I've seen them but have no experience with them. Have you done this yourself?
Not yet, just been very tempted.
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@wirestyle22 said:
How does ZeroTier handle updates? Are they just individual client based or can you use something similar to WSUS to update it?
