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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @LAH3385
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      @LAH3385 said:

      @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

      Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

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        Jason Banned
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        I found this one but have never used it: http://usbip.sourceforge.net/

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          Jason Banned
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          Here's a physical device. These guys are the standard with in automation gear. We use a lot of their Vlinx serial servers. http://www.bb-elec.com/Products/USB-Connectivity/USB-Over-Ethernet/USB-Over-Ethernet-Hub.aspx

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            If it only costs $120 to buy the new version of the software and it does not use a USB key (which would surprise me) then you should just do that.

            For my phone system, a part of the system uses a USB key to verify ownership - just like your old software. Since I virtualized this machine, I need a way to not care where the USB stick is located so I can move the VM and it will still work.

            Previously I had the USB plugged directly into the server and passed it through the hypervisor. Now I don't have to worry about.

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              LAH3385 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @LAH3385 said:

              @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

              Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

              My bad. The software is $600. I meant it cost almost half of the software. I am pretty sure I wrote that correctly... any Nazi Grammar here?

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @LAH3385
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                @LAH3385 said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                @LAH3385 said:

                @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

                Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

                My bad. The software is $600. I meant it cost almost half of the software. I am pretty sure I wrote that correctly... any Nazi Grammar here?

                Does the new version of the software require the USB dongle?

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                  LAH3385 @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  @LAH3385 said:

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @LAH3385 said:

                  @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

                  Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

                  My bad. The software is $600. I meant it cost almost half of the software. I am pretty sure I wrote that correctly... any Nazi Grammar here?

                  Does the new version of the software require the USB dongle?

                  It does not. But I don't have $600 in my Q1 budget.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @LAH3385
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                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @dafyre said:

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

                    Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

                    My bad. The software is $600. I meant it cost almost half of the software. I am pretty sure I wrote that correctly... any Nazi Grammar here?

                    Does the new version of the software require the USB dongle?

                    It does not. But I don't have $600 in my Q1 budget.

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @dafyre said:

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @Dashrender $226.50!! Double the price and I can get the current version with support. Any thing cheaper or if possible..FREE?

                    Then buy the damned software. You have wasted more than $113.25 just trying to get around replacing it.

                    My bad. The software is $600. I meant it cost almost half of the software. I am pretty sure I wrote that correctly... any Nazi Grammar here?

                    Does the new version of the software require the USB dongle?

                    It does not. But I don't have $600 in my Q1 budget.

                    Set it aside in your Q2 budget. 🙂

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                      Jason Banned @LAH3385
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                      @LAH3385 said:

                      It does not. But I don't have $600 in my Q1 budget.

                      $600 has to be a budgeted item to spend? That's crazy.

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                        LAH3385 @Jason
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                        @Jason We try to minimize spending in Q1 and Q2. Q4 is spending spree month for me 😄

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @LAH3385
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                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @Jason We try to minimize spending in Q1 and Q2. Q4 is spending spree month for me 😄

                          In that case, set it aside for Q4, if it is not an immediate need. 😄

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                            Jason Banned @LAH3385
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                            @LAH3385 said:

                            @Jason We try to minimize spending in Q1 and Q2. Q4 is spending spree month for me 😄

                            Weird. We try to balance it over the year so we don't have too much spending in one quarter. That would also look bad on Quarterly reports to shareholders. But, we don't budget things that are only $600 if it's a one time expense.

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                              LAH3385 @dafyre
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                              @dafyre We have the machine for 7 years now. I don't know how old is the machine exactly. Using P ATA HDD. DDR2 RAM.... all the OLD gen stuff. If HDD failed my worst fear is not having Windows or drivers for it.

                              @Jason If it is not in the budget, I have to make an appeal for it. The problem with me is... I have to appeal to the CEO directly. He is my manager. 😞

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @LAH3385
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                                @LAH3385 said:

                                @dafyre We have the machine for 7 years now. I don't know how old is the machine exactly. Using P ATA HDD. DDR2 RAM.... all the OLD gen stuff. If HDD failed my worst fear is not having Windows or drivers for it.

                                That is a very much valid concern. Definitely time to get it replaced. That, to me would be something worth pushing the CEO on. "If it breaks, I'm not sure we can fix it for less than $600"

                                Do you already have Hyper-V, or VMware, etc? If you could virtualize it, that would mean $600 and your biggest concerns go away, right?

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                                  JaredBusch @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @LAH3385 said:

                                  @dafyre We have the machine for 7 years now. I don't know how old is the machine exactly. Using P ATA HDD. DDR2 RAM.... all the OLD gen stuff. If HDD failed my worst fear is not having Windows or drivers for it.

                                  That is a very much valid concern. Definitely time to get it replaced. That, to me would be something worth pushing the CEO on. "If it breaks, I'm not sure we can fix it for less than $600"

                                  Do you already have Hyper-V, or VMware, etc? If you could virtualize it, that would mean $600 and your biggest concerns go away, right?

                                  If you are not going to correctly update it, then deal with the costs of downtime when/if it fails.

                                  As @dafyre insinuated, if you care about the downtime and costs, then it should be obvious after a very simple analysis of cost vs risk that it is well worth replacing now.

                                  Are you seriously gambling your entire company's ability to clock people in and out on $600?

                                  If this was truly a critical piece of your infrastructure you should already have a backup and restore method in place for DR purposes.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                                    @LAH3385 Just to be clear, I realize you have to deal with the constraints of your management and I say these things on the assumption that you will use the points in your dealings with them to help improve the situation.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      This is a door badge system. So what happens when the badge system fails? Does that mean you have to pass out keys so people can get into the building? or can't people get in?

                                      Find out what the real costs are for this system failing, have a full well understood recovery plan for failure, and if that requires spending.. the CEO will either choose to do it, or he won't.

                                      The responsibility is clearly in his hands once you explain the situation... Sure it will make you unhappy if he chooses not to do it, but you've done all you can, and according to Scott, all you should do.

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                                        Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        This is a door badge system. So what happens when the badge system fails? Does that mean you have to pass out keys so people can get into the building? or can't people get in?

                                        I don't know about his but ours and most I've seen don't actively run on the computer, they have a controller that connects into the computer or network, and a program that allows you to view the access attempts. Grant/deny certain access and add users/RFID passes. the controller does all the main work.

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                                          travisdh1 @Jason
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                                          @Jason said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          This is a door badge system. So what happens when the badge system fails? Does that mean you have to pass out keys so people can get into the building? or can't people get in?

                                          I don't know about his but ours and most I've seen don't actively run on the computer, they have a controller that connects into the computer or network, and a program that allows you to view the access attempts. Grant/deny certain access and add users/RFID passes. the controller does all the main work.

                                          I have a loathing of cheap software shops that think they have the best software ever, and so they make you use a usb key in addition to whatever other restrictions are on the software. In this case they may be calling it a security device, but it's the same thing. Frankly, given a couple minutes with one of the things I could probably clone it. So it really doesn't do the job they think it does..... "I do not think that means what you think that means."

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                                            LAH3385 @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch Your point is valid. I fully support your argument.

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            This is a door badge system. So what happens when the badge system fails? Does that mean you have to pass out keys so people can get into the building? or can't people get in?

                                            Find out what the real costs are for this system failing, have a full well understood recovery plan for failure, and if that requires spending.. the CEO will either choose to do it, or he won't.

                                            The responsibility is clearly in his hands once you explain the situation... Sure it will make you unhappy if he chooses not to do it, but you've done all you can, and according to Scott, all you should do.

                                            That is true. At the very least I will bring this up, gives him options, and wait for his decision.
                                            Even if the door badge system failed, people can still get in/out. The only problem is I will lose the ability to add new cards or de-registered cards.

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