Kiting someone along after an interview



  • I know this isn't appropriate for this thread, but I need to clear my mind, and I need to rant, if its misplaced feel free to move it to the appropriate topic receptacle.

    I recently was talking to the Vice President of a well known company, he made an effort to contact me, after our first chat on the phone I was told I was perfect for a job, and the proper channels would be put in place for me to interview and have documentation on file. We had a few conversations before the interview was made, which took roughly a month. I felt good, I was in, I just needed a documented interview.

    The interview went swell, my interviewer and I kind of bullsh** with one another, he said he already knew me well enough that he felt weird asking me the questions.

    Ok so in my mind I have this job, this is awesome. One week after the interview, I'm nervous and anxious. Two weeks after the interview I'm nervous so I contact my interviewer, he tells me I'm pretty rock solid and not to worry. I'm in right? In my mind I'm in. Its been a month and a half since I started talking about this new job, moving to another state, I'm excited. Three weeks after the interview, no word.... four weeks after the interview.... no word.... so I contact the VP... he comes off as a bit distant, makes an effort to get me contacted via my interviewer. We have a small chat and I'm told "don't keep your hopes up"....

    Let me get this straight, two [moderated] months ago I had a new job lined up, two [moderated] months I'm good to go, two [moderated] months goes by and I'm to not keep my hopes up?

    Now I'm beyond nervous, what the [moderated] is going on? My fiancee and I were under the impression we were moving, we were under the impression we had a new job, I WAS PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED A [moderated] JOB!!

    I got my email today from the VP... "we found someone more qualified", "we thought you were what we wanted"... [moderated] bullshit.... 8 god damn weeks, 2 [moderated] months of my life I was forced to SIT AND WAIT for a new job that I was told was mine.... the fact it took that long to [screw] me over is shocking, its far from professional, and its outright disgusting and leaves me pissed.... beyond pissed out right annoyed to no end. My [moderated] future was banking on it, my [moderated] future was told to me, what I was told, and what I get are very [moderated] different.



  • That sucks dude - sorry you had to go through that.



  • Paging @addie to the thread, paging @Addie to the thread. 🙂



  • I'm so far beyond irate Nic. It feels like an insult. Pump up my hopes and drop me like a bad habit? Unacceptable.



  • Well that really blows big time!



  • That is not right on so many levels. What the heck!



  • That's awful. I'm sorry. I've been there too. I once relocated to Manhattan (from Rochester) and was told after I has moved that they had changed their minds. They didn't even tell me not to report to work! I showed up for my first day and they "changed their minds."

    Companies can be pretty unethical sometimes. Especially small ones, I've found.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    That's awful. I'm sorry. I've been there too. I once relocated to Manhattan (from Rochester) and was told after I has moved that they had changed their minds. They didn't even tell me not to report to work! I showed up for my first day and they "changed their minds."

    Companies can be pretty unethical sometimes. Especially small ones, I've found.

    It's not right. Professionally why pump someone up? Why tell someone the grass is greener, the sun is shining brighter and I'm the chosen one to join. Just to smash everything I was hoping for? Fact is I ain't helping anymore. Over the past 2 years I've helped enough, and now I'm being asked to continue to help for free? That's a joke.



  • Hey, that sentiment sounds familiar 😉



  • There are lots if reasons that companies play that game - stringing potentials hires along is a means of hedging a bet, sometimes it is to foster a mental reaction that causes you to lower your asking rate, sometimes it is to keep you from going to work for the competition. All kinds if reasons. None good.



  • Count your blessing. You have a job still and, as I often say, nothing that you think that you know about a company compares to what you learn during an interview process. The hiring process is the only honest view into a company that you can get.

    If the process is slow, bad or unethical - it tells you loads about a company. Things that you can never learn when the marketing department is spinning everything.

    Be glad that you aren't reporting to work after having moved and then finding this stuff out! It sucks, but it sucks less this way.



  • Maybe, they told another they had a 'solid' for this position in order to make a move on the target. Car sales, you look at something, always there is another buyer interested in this vehicle (maybe, maybe not) but knowing you are competing with another for the vehicle can entice you to buy. Job's work in this way also, I have been told I was 1 of 3 people selected to interview. Wow, Odds are stacked in my favor-- No one I know in this town can compete, I am a shoe in. OOPS my bad, letter ("picked someone more qualified"), what???? Give me his name, I need to have his phone number so when I am stymied, I can add him to my support group and ask him questions. (Actually) I answer Way more questions than I ask. Still, More qualified, give me a break. Yea, I hear you and it does not make any sense, maybe they don't mind training someone - and paying quite a bit less? I also am at a loss, but Once many moons ago in another life I worked in a parts department of a large dealership. I saw firsthand the dirty tricks salesmen (not all) used to urge customers to buy.... Kind reminds me of the hiring process for IT. Quick take it for less, there is anther serious candidate we are looking at. Bang, shot thru the heart.



  • it just comes off as such an insult though. I don't know how else to say it,



  • It is insulting. At least you have the full idea of what working there could have been like....



  • @Minion-Queen said:

    It is insulting. At least you have the full idea of what working there could have been like....

    Agreed - the upside is you dodged the bullet of having to be part of such a dysfunctional organization.



  • I have had this happen to me multiple times, my downfall was after my first company was bought out I didn't search if I had a "dream job" on the line and more often then not I got strung out. It sucks, I am sorry.

    In other news I did get a job with another company that strung me a long for over a month and what Nic said rings pretty true, it's just a glimpse into how they operate. Although it's getting better after 7 months.



  • Once, A person said "at my job they are lazy, cruel, impatient. What should I do?". 1 Learn to be lazy, cruel, impatient - essentially 'learn' to fit in, or 2 find a job with people who have the quality's you would expect at a place of employment and learn from them. Never heard what happened, but hoped it was 2. Consider this learning experiment, people like to be important and throw their weight around. Give you hope, but are not really the end decision maker (obviously) and blindly go around affecting people in ways they cant imagine. Now, if you worked for this person and they continued in this way, how else do you think they could have made your life miserable. Consider how you felt, emotional rollercoaster, imagine how they felt - sure sounds like they were oblivious to this fact. With the little you have said they made you feel important 'key word they' and then took it away from you. If you were employed by them you may have to endure this rollercoaster while on their payroll. I wish I could say something that would make you feel better, but as you know I cant, but I could offer you a job and remove the offer. How would you feel then, and do you think I should have that kind of control over your feeling's. I don't. Please don't take this as being callous but remember, when it comes to other people's promises - all you have is hot air.



  • I tend to see this with larger companies, and it's pretty common. To put it in a nutshell, it's all talk until the offer letter's in your hand.



  • Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
    Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.

    keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)



  • @alexntg said:

    I tend to see this with larger companies, and it's pretty common. To put it in a nutshell, it's all talk until the offer letter's in your hand.

    I tend to see it with smaller ones (not Fortune 1000) where they have no public image or PR concerns and burning bridges isn't something that they worry about.



  • @Joyfano said:

    Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
    Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.

    keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)

    His wasn't just that he was qualified but they basically offered him the job and were just waiting on telling him when he would be starting. It's been a conversation and active thing all along and they've had him kind of working for free in the interim, sort of.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Joyfano said:

    Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
    Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.

    keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)

    His wasn't just that he was qualified but they basically offered him the job and were just waiting on telling him when he would be starting. It's been a conversation and active thing all along and they've had him kind of working for free in the interim, sort of.

    Oh sorry Sir , I think i need to learn to read thoroughly next time 🙂



  • RAM I know the feeling I have been strung along like that before. It was my first venture into IT and it was an entry level HD job. I sent me resume, interviewed and for the next 3 months they strung me along. They kept telling me I was their # 1 candidate. Then after the 3rd month I called and told them to stop string me along and they said "oh we forgot to tell you we filled that position 2 months ago" I was so furious that I sent a nicely worded (somehow very professional) that the way they treated me was highly un-professional and that when I did get into the IT job line I would spread the word that this company is not one you want to work for.



  • The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!

    You mean you already invited him here in MangoLassi?



  • @Joyfano said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!

    You mean you already invited him here in MangoLassi?

    Yes, the day he announced that he couldn't post (over there) anymore. I invited him to post here. He was very cold. Now we see why.



  • I held myself back from posting over here due to the fact I was in the midst of talking about other employment, I didn't want to condemn myself by saying anything I shouldn't have over here.

    Seeing as my attempts went disrespectfully discouraged over there, my voice will echo their pages less and less.



  • And now you are free to post here!



  • RAM,

    I left a stable government IT job and started to work for an MSP that really worked themselves up to be something they werent. I moved and everything to start the job. The first week I was thee they had me recycle computer components and UPS batteries and the Second week I sat on a PC waiting for a client to call. Sometime in the 3rd week they laid me off. I was insulted, and I was extremely pissed off. They knew they pulled me away from a stable job and laid me off in 3 weeks. I then started doing contract work. Alot of my friends did this, but It was never something I had done. I really hated it. No employer was the same. IT department skill levels varied.

    About a year later, I was getting desperate to get an employee job for a company. I paid to have my resume professionally done. I started applying at jobs with my new Resume and got offered interviews like crazy. In a week, I did 4 interviews and 3 of the employers gave me a job offer. I was able to pick my place of employment and now I couldnt be more happy.

    Everyone who is working for a great employer, put their time in with the shitty ones. I see it on Spicworks all the time, IT professionals posting about their backwards IT dept. and employers. That was me. No appreciation by co-workers and superiors. Set your sights high, and dont stop until you get what you want. There are good employers out there and you are a good employee. One day soon, you will find the right fit.



  • @RAM. said:

    il today from the VP... "we found someone more qualified", "we thought you were what we wanted"... [moderated] bullshit.... 8 god damn weeks, 2 [moderated] months of my life I was forced to SIT AND WAIT for a new job that I was told was mine.... the fact it took that long to [screw] me over is shocking, its far from professional, and its outright disgusting and leaves me pissed.... beyond pissed out right annoyed to no end. My [moderated] future was banking on it, my [moderated] future was told to me, what I was told, and what I get are very [moderated] different.

    Happens to the best of us.

    I'm going to start telling people "Only serious inquiries need ask me if I want a job." 🙂


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