Xen Orchestra Upgrading

Alex Sage

@Dashrender It's perfect for a home lab, and your don't have to install from sources

Dashrender

Well if you go that route, why not make it free for everyone up to 2-4 sockets?

And no Oliver, I'm not really suggesting that.

FATeknollogee

I would be interested in paying for a version that was:
Starter plus:

DR
Delta backup
CR
FLR

BRRABill

I mean thanks to ML it's a pretty easy install and upgrade.

If running a script is too much, then doing backups and stuff like that might be too much, as well.

DustinB3403

Yea we worked really hard to get it so the source version of XO installable with as few commands as possible.

Updating too.

DustinB3403

@olivier said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@Dashrender Having support for less than $70/mo. isn't worth it due to the market size (we can't have a "big scale" effect that VMWare/VEEAM can have).

But @olivier I know of at one person who could push for $70 a month. The price point you have now is just really steep.

olivier

@DustinB3403 said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@olivier said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@Dashrender Having support for less than $70/mo. isn't worth it due to the market size (we can't have a "big scale" effect that VMWare/VEEAM can have).

But @olivier I know of at one person who could push for $70 a month. The price point you have now is just really steep.

From a strictly financial point of view, Starter is almost negligible for us. It would be interesting with far more customers (eg at 2 order of magnitude). And even in this (impossible) case, profit will stay very small comparing to Premium users.

DustinB3403

@olivier said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@DustinB3403 said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@olivier said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@Dashrender Having support for less than $70/mo. isn't worth it due to the market size (we can't have a "big scale" effect that VMWare/VEEAM can have).

But @olivier I know of at one person who could push for $70 a month. The price point you have now is just really steep.

From a strictly financial point of view, Starter is almost negligible for us. It would be interesting with far more customers (eg at 2 order of magnitude). And even in this (impossible) case, profit will stay very small comparing to Premium users.

I totally get it, you need to eat. The problem that I don't think is obvious is that many businesses look at $500/month and wonder "what are we missing, we can't afford it"

olivier

@DustinB3403 You need to think globally Only 1 Premium is enough to not have to convince 7x Starter. And costing 7 times less in support.

You should see Starter as "introductory offer". We'll add services step by step (like Cloud Backup).

Dashrender

@olivier said in Xen Orchestra Upgrading:

@DustinB3403 You need to think globally Only 1 Premium is enough to not have to convince 7x Starter. And costing 7 times less in support.

You should see Starter as "introductory offer". We'll add services step by step (like Cloud Backup).

Yeah, supporting the SMB's is the killer.

I think perhaps a better plan for SMBs would be, here's the product, some charge - say $500 (pulling a number out of my rear) and with that you get 4 hours of support. Then you can buy support in blocks after that.

The hard thing, you're going up against the likes of Veeam, and because of their size, they don't have to limit it like this.