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    • mlnews
      mlnews last edited by

      Softpedia takes a look at the new features and packages of the upcoming Fedora 24 due to release this year. The first Alpha release of Fedora 24 is expected to drop on March 1st. The final release is due in the middle of May. The Linux 4.4 kernel is expected to be included. And 32bit Intel support will be absent. IA32 is dead.

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      • travisdh1
        travisdh1 @mlnews last edited by

        @mlnews said:

        IA32 is dead.

        Now if we hadn't had the resurrection of 32-bit hardware via low cost ARM/MIPS processors, we'd be in a 64 bit world finally (well, mostly, don't get me started on the different architecture designs and exactly what is actual 64 bit inside a CPU.)

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        • scottalanmiller
          scottalanmiller @travisdh1 last edited by

          @travisdh1 said:

          @mlnews said:

          IA32 is dead.

          Now if we hadn't had the resurrection of 32-bit hardware via low cost ARM/MIPS processors, we'd be in a 64 bit world finally (well, mostly, don't get me started on the different architecture designs and exactly what is actual 64 bit inside a CPU.)

          Yes, but ARM and MIPS aren't related to IA32. And we are mostly on 64bit ARM outside of cell phones now. The Chomebooks and tablets and Fire TVs and Remix OS Mini for example are all 64bit ARM and the ARM servers coming are all 64bit. Even in the ARM world, 32bit is dying quickly.

          In the MIPS world, we've been on 64bit since the early 1990s when the Nintendo 64 came out on 64bit MIP hardware.

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          • travisdh1
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @travisdh1 said:

            @mlnews said:

            IA32 is dead.

            Now if we hadn't had the resurrection of 32-bit hardware via low cost ARM/MIPS processors, we'd be in a 64 bit world finally (well, mostly, don't get me started on the different architecture designs and exactly what is actual 64 bit inside a CPU.)

            Yes, but ARM and MIPS aren't related to IA32. And we are mostly on 64bit ARM outside of cell phones now. The Chomebooks and tablets and Fire TVs and Remix OS Mini for example are all 64bit ARM and the ARM servers coming are all 64bit. Even in the ARM world, 32bit is dying quickly.

            In the MIPS world, we've been on 64bit since the early 1990s when the Nintendo 64 came out on 64bit MIP hardware.

            MIPS via IRIX was my first corporate experience as a UNIX admin. So yep, I remember the first real 64 bit chips (1997-2002). So long as we all get rid of 32bit ARM chips by around 2038, I was thinking that date was 2024. I don't imagine my RaspberriPis will still be functional by 2038.

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller last edited by

              MIPS is decent stuff. Weird that the moved from making super high end RISC systems for big iron UNIX to embedded low power stuff.

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              • scottalanmiller
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                The ones that I miss are ALPHA and PA-RISC. I still have a PA-RISC workstation in storage.

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                • dafyre
                  dafyre @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  The ones that I miss are ALPHA and PA-RISC. I still have a PA-RISC workstation in storage.

                  At my last job, when I first got there, our Student Information System was run on a Dec Alpha system / OpenVMS, I think.

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller last edited by

                    OpenVMS, now that's good stuff.

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                    • dafyre
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      OpenVMS, now that's good stuff.

                      Not over telnet, ha ha ha.

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre last edited by

                        @dafyre said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        OpenVMS, now that's good stuff.

                        Not over telnet, ha ha ha.

                        It has OpenSSH. If you had only telnet, someone decided to just leave it wide open. VMS Admins are hard to find and always were.

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                        • travisdh1
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          OpenVMS, now that's good stuff.

                          Not over telnet, ha ha ha.

                          It has OpenSSH. If you had only telnet, someone decided to just leave it wide open. VMS Admins are hard to find and always were.

                          I didn't take well to OpenVMS, mostly because near the end of my time there in 2002 they tossed it at me. Gotta love the, you know UNIX, so you already know everything you need to know about OpenVMS attitude. Couldn't have set me up to fail any better, and I was too young to know what was going down.

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