RemixOS -- Android for the PC
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@Dashrender said:
@Kelly said:
@dafyre said:
@Kelly said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Interesting. I think that Android is going to be a big deal on the desktop once they get rolling with it.
And is going to make Windows XP pre SP1 look like a well patched, secure computing platform...
It's built around Android Lollipop (5.1.x), so it should be at least up to par with Android... if that says anything (good or bad, ha ha)
Not probably going to be a good thing right now: http://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224. Hopefully something like this will expose the flaws more broadly and force Google to do something regarding fragmentation and critical patching on non-Nexus systems.
How do you propose solving the fragmentation problem? The Android base is open source and free to use. That the root of the problem right there.
Toss on the fact that the carriers don't give a shit about supporting devices 30 seconds after they leave their store, it's no wonder that we have millions of hackable computers floating all over this little ball of blue light.
I have no idea, but I'm not being paid meelions of dollars to fix it
I could throw out some options, but none of them would make anyone happy except the carriers. -
There aren't easy or cheap solutions, but not doing anything is worse. Maybe we should make carriers fiscally responsible for identity breaches provably caused by out of date OS versions.
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@Kelly said:
There aren't easy or cheap solutions, but not doing anything is worse. Maybe we should make carriers fiscally responsible for identity breaches provably caused by out of date OS versions.
How would you force the update on the phone, constant prompting, and after so many prompts it's just forced?
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Kelly said:
There aren't easy or cheap solutions, but not doing anything is worse. Maybe we should make carriers fiscally responsible for identity breaches provably caused by out of date OS versions.
How would you force the update on the phone, constant prompting, and after so many prompts it's just forced?
If what I suggested above happens, the carriers will likely disable data on the device until it is patched.
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@Kelly said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Interesting. I think that Android is going to be a big deal on the desktop once they get rolling with it.
And is going to make Windows XP pre SP1 look like a well patched, secure computing platform...
LOL, possibly. But if Android doesn't come from a carrier, I think that it is a good OS. It's only that people CAN get crappy versions of it that is a problem. The issue is only that Android doesn't have a license to protect users from abusive providers like iOS does. Not actually Android's fault, but it is an Android shortcoming.
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@Kelly .... data service the thing you need to patch the device, unless you have access to WiFi...
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
Really? Why do you think that?
I suppose if they can make it ack more like Windows, with windowed applications, then maybe, but if full screen or nothing - well we're right back to Windows 8 and Metro apps. And you see how well that went over on desktops.
This is kinda going the other way... it's taking a touch screen based setup, and making it more friendly for desktops. Supposedly it will be a competitor to ChromeOS.
I wonder what the "real" upside to that is? Games, of course. But beyond that?
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Kelly said:
There aren't easy or cheap solutions, but not doing anything is worse. Maybe we should make carriers fiscally responsible for identity breaches provably caused by out of date OS versions.
How would you force the update on the phone, constant prompting, and after so many prompts it's just forced?
That's how I thought apple did it.
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@Dashrender said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@Kelly said:
There aren't easy or cheap solutions, but not doing anything is worse. Maybe we should make carriers fiscally responsible for identity breaches provably caused by out of date OS versions.
How would you force the update on the phone, constant prompting, and after so many prompts it's just forced?
That's how I thought apple did it.
Nope, they just nag forever.
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Almost nothing today requires updates. But updates would solve so many problems on the internet.
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@Dashrender said:
Almost nothing today requires updates. But updates would solve so many problems on the internet.
You're wrong about the first part.
Everything needs to be updates on a regular basis.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender said:
Almost nothing today requires updates. But updates would solve so many problems on the internet.
You're wrong about the first part.
Everything needs to be updates on a regular basis.
If you read my comment on it's own, you're right, it's wrong, but in the context on carriers, etc requiring devices to be updated (which was my intention) it's true.
Yes, almost all devices connected to the internet require software updates, but there are almost zero gateways to the internet that require that said devices are updated before gaining access.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender said:
Almost nothing today requires updates. But updates would solve so many problems on the internet.
You're wrong about the first part.
Everything needs to be updates on a regular basis.
But how many things that need those updates will simply tell you that you can't use the software until you do the update? (Windows aside, grumbles something about fricken forced reboots)
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@Dashrender agree'd (only because my brain is done for today)
@dafyre "Oyh asshat I need to reboot in 2 minutes at 4AM (says all of the DCs)"
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Kelly .... data service the thing you need to patch the device, unless you have access to WiFi...
As I said, I don't have good answers for any of this. I only know it is a problem, and only Google potentially has the reach to do something about it.
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Not really, Google doesn't own the Android code and cannot really enforce anything. Anything they put in, someone else can remove. Google oversees the ecosystem but has no means of enforcing control.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Not really, Google doesn't own the Android code and cannot really enforce anything. Anything they put in, someone else can remove. Google oversees the ecosystem but has no means of enforcing control.
True, but they can do more to influence and guide Android than any other single organization. Given the number of security flaws that occur in the Nexus lines they are not doing well enough to put any pressure on the OEMs. If they started marketing Nexus as the most secure Android (and made it so) platform, then there could be pushback from the marketplace.
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I wonder how the Amazon guided Fire ecosystem stacks up in that regard?
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I posted a picture of their ultra tablet on here a while ago. It's a pretty cool idea. I've used my android tablet with a mouse and keyboard before and it's not too too bad, but this would make it a lot better.
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@Kelly said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not really, Google doesn't own the Android code and cannot really enforce anything. Anything they put in, someone else can remove. Google oversees the ecosystem but has no means of enforcing control.
True, but they can do more to influence and guide Android than any other single organization. Given the number of security flaws that occur in the Nexus lines they are not doing well enough to put any pressure on the OEMs. If they started marketing Nexus as the most secure Android (and made it so) platform, then there could be pushback from the marketplace.
What security flaws in the nexus line? They're the most secure of all of them. They get the updates immediately and constantly. It's the others who need to rely on carriers that are less secure.
