Android tablet



  • A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?



  • Amazon Fire Android Tablets do this, but they do not talk to Google.



  • @Dashrender said:

    A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?

    Between actual users on the tablet or google play accounts?

    You can set up multiple users on the tablet and then require a password, pin, or pattern for each. They each have their own home screens, etc.



  • @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?

    Between actual users on the tablet or google play accounts?

    You can set up multiple users on the tablet and then require a password, pin, or pattern for each. They each have their own home screens, etc.

    You can? OK that's news to me - but I haven't had an Android tablet in 3+ years.

    I'll suggest that.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?

    Between actual users on the tablet or google play accounts?

    You can set up multiple users on the tablet and then require a password, pin, or pattern for each. They each have their own home screens, etc.

    You can? OK that's news to me - but I haven't had an Android tablet in 3+ years.

    I'll suggest that.

    Not sure about previous to KitKat, but from KitKat on you can.



  • @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?

    Between actual users on the tablet or google play accounts?

    You can set up multiple users on the tablet and then require a password, pin, or pattern for each. They each have their own home screens, etc.

    You can? OK that's news to me - but I haven't had an Android tablet in 3+ years.

    I'll suggest that.

    Not sure about previous to KitKat, but from KitKat on you can.

    And @scottalanmiller always questioned why we wanted AD to extend to mobile (primarily phone) devices. This is one huge reason. True, I'm guessing in most businesses there won't be a lot of sharing of cell phones, but when it comes to tablets, I don't see those any differently than desktops/laptops, and around here we share all the time.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @johnhooks said:

    @Dashrender said:

    A doc just asked me if there is a way to make an Android tablet (with the Google Play store installed) require the google account password when switching between accounts.

    I don't have a device here at work to try, so right now I don't know.

    I'm also guessing that to make life easier, the assumption is that an tablet is more a single user device, as such any account configured on the device has the password saved for convenience sake.

    Do you know? or have thoughts on this?

    Between actual users on the tablet or google play accounts?

    You can set up multiple users on the tablet and then require a password, pin, or pattern for each. They each have their own home screens, etc.

    You can? OK that's news to me - but I haven't had an Android tablet in 3+ years.

    I'll suggest that.

    Not sure about previous to KitKat, but from KitKat on you can.

    And @scottalanmiller always questioned why we wanted AD to extend to mobile (primarily phone) devices. This is one huge reason. True, I'm guessing in most businesses there won't be a lot of sharing of cell phones, but when it comes to tablets, I don't see those any differently than desktops/laptops, and around here we share all the time.

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.



  • It's been 6+ months since I worked with him on his whole Android ecosystem issue.

    As a family, he didn't want to have to purchase the application 5 different times (husband, wife, child1, child2, child 3).

    The first thing one would think, OK fine, all devices share the same account. Sure that works, but that creates new problems - like everyone has access to that email account, all the pictures get saved into the same account (and have access).

    So that wasn't a good solution.

    Instead I proposed that a new account, a family account be created. One where the email portion would never be used, nor the picture portion, just the Google Play store account.

    Additionally, everyone who has a device will get their own Google account.

    This of course is not a simple solution and is error prone when people forget what the setup should be.
    Also, because many apps were purchased under the first account that was setup, namely dad's, many of the applications would have to be purchased again under the family account, since at the time I could see no way to transfer ownership of a Google Play purchase.

    Has anyone else dealt with this situation? If so, how did you solve it?



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?



  • @Dashrender said:

    As a family, he didn't want to have to purchase the application 5 different times (husband, wife, child1, child2, child 3).

    Does normal Android make you do that? With Amazon Fire, buy once and the whole family gets it.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?

    For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.



  • @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    As a family, he didn't want to have to purchase the application 5 different times (husband, wife, child1, child2, child 3).

    Does normal Android make you do that? With Amazon Fire, buy once and the whole family gets it.

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.

    I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?

    For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.

    This is going to sound snarky, but just because your family can afford an iPad for every member of the household doesn't mean most can. Many families I know only have one, and the whole family shares it. If they had the ability to log into their own profile, they would love that.

    Now, with the new Amazon Fire's being, what $70? - OK we're much closer to everyone having one. But that's on the droid side of the fence, not the Apple one.



  • @coliver said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    As a family, he didn't want to have to purchase the application 5 different times (husband, wife, child1, child2, child 3).

    Does normal Android make you do that? With Amazon Fire, buy once and the whole family gets it.

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠

    Time to move away from Google Play 🙂



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.

    I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.

    So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?

    For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.

    This is going to sound snarky, but just because your family can afford an iPad for every member of the household doesn't mean most can. Many families I know only have one, and the whole family shares it. If they had the ability to log into their own profile, they would love that.

    Now, with the new Amazon Fire's being, what $70? - OK we're much closer to everyone having one. But that's on the droid side of the fence, not the Apple one.

    We moved to Amazon Fire because it was more affordable. And they are half the price you are picturing.

    I don't know any families sharing tablets, not even those much poorer than us and those with many more kids. I'm sure that people do, but I literally know no one doing that. Has nothing to do with what my household does.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.

    I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.

    So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?

    Two adults, two kids.



  • @coliver said:

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠

    Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.

    Definitely for music though.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?

    For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.

    This is going to sound snarky, but just because your family can afford an iPad for every member of the household doesn't mean most can. Many families I know only have one, and the whole family shares it. If they had the ability to log into their own profile, they would love that.

    Now, with the new Amazon Fire's being, what $70? - OK we're much closer to everyone having one. But that's on the droid side of the fence, not the Apple one.

    We moved to Amazon Fire because it was more affordable. And they are half the price you are picturing.

    I don't know any families sharing tablets, not even those much poorer than us and those with many more kids. I'm sure that people do, but I literally know no one doing that. Has nothing to do with what my household does.

    I know lots of families with only one Ipad to go around for the whole family (no other laptops/desktops either).



  • @BRRABill said:

    @coliver said:

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠

    Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.

    Definitely for music though.

    For music they have family sharing. I don't remember it being for apps. I'm sure that is on the way though since all of their major competitors are doing it.



  • @BRRABill said:

    @coliver said:

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠

    Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.

    Definitely for music though.

    Yeah, they've been babbling about that for a year+



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.

    I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.

    So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?

    Two adults, two kids.

    How did you configure it?



  • @coliver said:

    @BRRABill said:

    @coliver said:

    Right, Google Play accounts are a 1:1 relationship... I really wish they would change that. 😠

    Are they? I know they just allowed Google Play Music to have family sharing. I thought I read it was for apps as well.

    Definitely for music though.

    For music they have family sharing. I don't remember it being for apps. I'm sure that is on the way though since all of their major competitors are doing it.

    Fire Store does it for apps. Buy Minecraft PE, and it shows up on all four tablets and both Fire TVs.

    Our yeah, six devices, not five.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller Only if they share the same account.

    I'm talking about 5 different devices.

    I've got five devices (literally, exactly five) and four accounts across them. no issuses.

    So how does that work? are the other 4 accounts child accounts of yours? and any application you buy - they have access to?

    Two adults, two kids.

    How did you configure it?

    The kids are done right on the app. Dominica set up the second adult account (you only get two of those) so not sure.



  • The Apple ecosystem has a family account setup and when I buy something it is available on all devices.



  • http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201806360

    Nice!

    And about time!

    Now where the heck is Google on this? And with MS trying to push their store more, they need to make sure they do the same.

    oh.. and of course.. what about Apple?



  • Amazon is getting some things right with their tablets. SOme things very wrong, don't get me wrong. But the app sharing is great.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    You don't, and a few rare businesses will be this way. But the thing that makes them "tablets" is that they are single user. Otherwise they are just a keyboardless laptop. The world sees tablets as single user devices. People think of them as "belonging" to someone. It's how the market is. If you want something different you should consider getting a full Windows or Linux laptop with a removable keyboard.

    If that were true (and I'm not saying you are wrong) why would they add multi-user ability after Kit-Kat?

    For people demanding it. Just because something isn't good or normal doesn't mean it wouldn't be a selling point.

    I set it up at the shop because we needed some cheap disposable (we got some no name ones) android tablets that we could access the intranet with to sign for deliveries and do Lock Out Tag Out/maintenance records. Having a shop account and an admin account was nice so that people don't play and install every game possible on it. It's definitely not useful for everyone, but in this case it helped.


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