Building a Server for Home Lab
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@anonymous said:
Who makes a nice looking case?
Everyone? BitPheonix has some nice MicroATX cases but if you want a decent case at an inexpensive price Rosewill is generally my go to manufacturer.
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If I hit powerball, I'm buying this "case": http://www.redharbinger.com/shop/cases/cross-desk-usa-only/
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Parts Ordered, with be here tomorrow!
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Here is what I ordered:
- Thermaltake CORE V21 Black Extreme Micro ATX Cube Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PDDMN6S - EVGA 500 W1 80+, 500W Continuous Power, 3 Year Warranty Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33SFJU - Gigabyte FM2+/FM2 AMD A78 HDMI Dual-Link DVI D-Sub 2-Way Crossfire mATX Motherboard GA-F2A78M-D3H
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I6DLJHQ - AMD A8 series Processor 3.6 4 AD767KXBJCBOX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011BD60S0 - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) UDIMM Memory
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG9EEW - SanDisk Internal SSD 120GB 2.5-Inch SDSSDA-120G-G25
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S9Q9UKS
- Thermaltake CORE V21 Black Extreme Micro ATX Cube Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
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@marcinozga said:
If I hit powerball, I'm buying this "case": http://www.redharbinger.com/shop/cases/cross-desk-usa-only/
years of research?
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@anonymous said:
Who makes a nice looking case?
Who needs a case, just screw it to the wall
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@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
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@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
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@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.
Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.
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@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
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@quicky2g said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.
Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.
That's because.... IBM servers.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@quicky2g said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.
Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.
That's because.... IBM servers.
Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.
Do you want dinner?
No
Hey, where is my food?
You said you didn't want dinner!
I meant... I didn't want a salad.
huh?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@quicky2g said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.
Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.
That's because.... IBM servers.
Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.
They are fine, i just don't like them as much as the alternatives and now that they are gone there isn't a path to anything and little reason to use them in a lab as IBM experience isn't valuable anymore like it use to be.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.
Do you want dinner?
No
Hey, where is my food?
You said you didn't want dinner!
I meant... I didn't want a salad.
huh?
No argument that it is weird... but it seems to hold out on most topics about RAID.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.
Do you want dinner?
No
Hey, where is my food?
You said you didn't want dinner!
I meant... I didn't want a salad.
huh?
I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@quicky2g said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.
Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.
That's because.... IBM servers.
Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.
They are fine, i just don't like them as much as the alternatives and now that they are gone there isn't a path to anything and little reason to use them in a lab as IBM experience isn't valuable anymore like it use to be.
Very true. That's why my last purchase was an HP
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.
Do you want dinner?
No
Hey, where is my food?
You said you didn't want dinner!
I meant... I didn't want a salad.
huh?
I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.
And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.
In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
I have been thinking about this board:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h
- Micro ATX
- Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
- Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
- OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
- ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
- 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors
Why build a server without RAID?
Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.
That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.
I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.
that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.
Do you want dinner?
No
Hey, where is my food?
You said you didn't want dinner!
I meant... I didn't want a salad.
huh?
I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.
And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.
In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.
Who uses ZFS? Is that really that common?
