Suggestions on a 17" laptop
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@Dashrender said:
I'd rather just stick with a business class machine.
Money is not a top issue here either.
A vanilla model you can load up
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@scottalanmiller said:
I can't even stand to use a 17" anymore, let alone something like that. That is SO much bigger than a 17"!
I can't stand to use anything less than a 17". I thought I could, but I'm returning the XPS 15 I recently ordered in favor of the 17" Inspiron I'm on as I type this. I think it's mostly just that I have a really tall torso so the distance between the screen and my eyes is far above normal, making everything less comfortable to see without hunching over pretty hard. 17"-ers solve this problem with a bigger screen and typically being less thin and getting it up closer to your face. that said if there was a 20" laptop I'd grab that in a heartbeat. I used to tote a Dell M2010 around college and it was amazing. In auditorium classes I'd detach the keyboard and put the box in the row next to me and be able to read and see it fine. I think it was 20.1 inches at 1680x1050 or something like that. The day they stopped making those my heart broke.
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It really was the baddest ass notebook-class computer ( at least it was for me, I'm sure it was too big and heavy for all demographics to carry around ) in human history. folded up like a brief case for easy portability. I'd get compliments on it all day long every day around campus.
http://www.theenglishmall.com/images/product/776/d9fd4fd23aba495eac53f4424345fe19.jpg
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Here's how it looked folded ( when you'd carry it ).
http://www.bloomberg.com/ss/08/10/1031_dell_laptop/image/xps_m2010_closed_300.jpg
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@creayt said:
I think it's mostly just that I have a really tall torso so the distance between the screen and my eyes is far above normal, making everything less comfortable to see without hunching over pretty hard.So, basically, you need a shorter chair.
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Yeah, I'm with Creayt - working from a 15" or (kill me) an 11" - man I'd rather die I think!
I have a pair of 22" monitors on my desk which suit me fine. I'd be happy with a pair of 19 if that's all I could have.. but doing day to day work from a 15" would just be super painful.
it's one thing to surf the web at home on a 13.3 (my Yoga Pro 2). But when I want to do actual work, I go to my office with the pair of 19's.
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@art_of_shred said:
@creayt said:
I think it's mostly just that I have a really tall torso so the distance between the screen and my eyes is far above normal, making everything less comfortable to see without hunching over pretty hard.So, basically, you need a shorter chair.
It's funny that you say that, because to compensate sometimes I drop my chair down as low as it can possibly go, which looks funny to most people, and put my arms as far into the desk as possible to approximate my face to the screen. Doesn't particularly work in public places like coffee shops and airports where there aren't adjustable chairs, and isn't particularly comfortable. Sharug.
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@Dashrender said:
Yeah, I'm with Creayt - working from a 15" or (kill me) an 11" - man I'd rather die I think!
I have a pair of 22" monitors on my desk which suit me fine. I'd be happy with a pair of 19 if that's all I could have.. but doing day to day work from a 15" would just be super painful.
it's one thing to surf the web at home on a 13.3 (my Yoga Pro 2). But when I want to do actual work, I go to my office with the pair of 19's.
Which reminds me. I've tried using a laptop stand to get the screen higher and even tried that at coffee shops before. You always hit an issue w/ getting it closer to your face and still having room to type comfortably ( or at least I do ). I'm totally w/ you on wanting bigger, real monitors to do actual work on. I just sold my rig and 3x 27" monitors to upgrade to a 40" 4k screen and now when I use anything but I want to cut my wrists. Big screens = big productivity IMHO.
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I'm not sure I could go back to a single monitor for daily driver. My pair of 22's is about perfect. I might like a pair of 27's, but I'm thinking that would be the max without pushing them about 3 feet back from me. Right now when I'm sitting in my desired location, i can just barely reach out and touch the screens.
My screens are about 40 Inches wide by 12 inches tall.
The dual monitors gives you some advantages over a single, mainly in windowing/full screen modes, but the other thing I really like is the format. Super wide (40 inches) yet not super tall (12 inches) I think I would like something more akin to 40 x 15 or 40 x 17, but eh.
Any wider than 40 inches, say I went to pair of 27" monitors (would be around 45-48 inches wide) I'm guessing I would start noticing neck fatigue from twisting left and right switching between screens.
I'm not a programmers - i don't spend most of my day in a single app writing lines of code that are only 80 or so characters wide. In that situation I can definitely see where a single larger monitor would be nice.
Any time you spend the majority of your time in a single window, you're probably perfectly happy with a single large display.
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@Dashrender I've got a 32" 2k at home, and it about fills up my field of vision while sitting at a comfortable distance. My old 24" is mounted on a swing arm beside it. It's a great setup that lets me concentrate most of my attention on one screen and still have reference material a glance away. The fact that that the 2nd monitor is on a swing arm means I can still use the computer while sitting on the couch. /me spoiled@home
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@Dashrender said:
I'm not sure I could go back to a single monitor for daily driver. My pair of 22's is about perfect. I might like a pair of 27's, but I'm thinking that would be the max without pushing them about 3 feet back from me. Right now when I'm sitting in my desired location, i can just barely reach out and touch the screens.
My screens are about 40 Inches wide by 12 inches tall.
The dual monitors gives you some advantages over a single, mainly in windowing/full screen modes, but the other thing I really like is the format. Super wide (40 inches) yet not super tall (12 inches) I think I would like something more akin to 40 x 15 or 40 x 17, but eh.
Any wider than 40 inches, say I went to pair of 27" monitors (would be around 45-48 inches wide) I'm guessing I would start noticing neck fatigue from twisting left and right switching between screens.
I'm not a programmers - i don't spend most of my day in a single app writing lines of code that are only 80 or so characters wide. In that situation I can definitely see where a single larger monitor would be nice.
Any time you spend the majority of your time in a single window, you're probably perfectly happy with a single large display.
Actually, quite the opposite. As a fullstack web developer I iterate through somewhere between 4-6 applications continuously ( consistently, you write a nugget of code, run it, test/debug, complete a micro task, update a reference doc, and dip into Google Docs, email, Slack, research browsing, and a few other apps intermittently ) all day long, and after having spent the better part of the decade using the advantages you mentioned about windowing and fullscreen modes, there's a new technology now that's UHD resolution at screensizes where the text is still perfectly readable at 100% scalling. The 40" 4k screen I have is about the same as if you put 4 x 24" 1920x1080 monitors in a grid of 2 by 2 and removed all bezels ( only without the seams ). Windows 10 has amazing screen division shortcutting ( win key and arrows and shift ) to tile your windows exactly how you'd want them to simulate having multiple monitors, only you can also use it as one big giant screen when strategically advantageous ( like seeing 10 zillion database tables and rows all at once ).
I loved using multiple monitors, and I at one time attempted to use 5 at once in a very strange, though stratege-icky setup ( 3 in portrait w/ 2 flanking the trio on the left in landscape but stacked bezel to bezel ), which had its advantages and weaknesses.
Multi-monitors is great and a total productivity boon to a good chunk of people ( some people just can't figure out how to work like that and feel comfortable ), but when you get 3840x2160 in a readable size on a single pane of glass... it's even better.
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Does win 10 have anything different from win 7?
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@Dashrender said:
Does win 10 have anything different from win 7?
Yep.
It might've been 7, but I thought it was 8 that you could hop the windows around between half screens w/ win key + arrow ( and shift to jump to the next monitor ), but what 10 introduced is quadrants, so you can now use the keyboard to position a window in any 1/4th of the screen in addition to 1/2. This is perfectly suited to a 4k screen, where each quadrant is 1920x1080.
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I don't know about sending a window to another screen, but the 1/2 was definitely in Windows 7. That quadrant thing does sound usable, assuming your on a larger 4K type display.
