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    XenServer 6.5 and Windows 10 Memory Management

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So in the below picture I clearly have 8GB of RAM allocated to this VM. But in the memory portion on the left 1/4 GB are used.

      Did Microsoft just update this to show the allocation to the OS (4GB cap) or what? Help me understand this because I'm curious as to what is going on here.

      0_1450445665508_2015-12-18_08-34-19.png

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        So in the below picture I clearly have 8GB of RAM allocated to this VM. But in the memory portion on the left 1/4 GB are used.

        Did Microsoft just update this to show the allocation to the OS (4GB cap) or what? Help me understand this because I'm curious as to what is going on here.

        0_1450445665508_2015-12-18_08-34-19.png

        What version of Windows 10 are you running?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Windows 10 Pro

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            Windows 10 Pro

            32 bit or 64?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              64

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                Jason Banned
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                Dynamic Memory I'm betting unless it's 32bit

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  The system definitely believes that you have 4GB of RAM there. Do you have 4GB RAM and 4GB swap?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Did they release a 32bit Windows 10?

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                      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Did they release a 32bit Windows 10?

                      Yep. Mostly just for inplace upgrades though. Otherwise it wouldn't work.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Hrm...

                        One second, I just looked at the memory management tab in Xen Center and it list only 4GB...

                        Gonna do some testing.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          Just "added" 4 GB more, signing in now

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            Hrm..

                            Well now it does say I have 8GB to use, but my Committed now says 1.4/16GB...

                            WTH!

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              Hrm..

                              Well now it does say I have 8GB to use, but my Committed now says 1.4/16GB...

                              WTH!

                              Windows is Autosizing the Swap File to be RAM x2... You could manually set that in 8.1 -- I haven't trired it in Windows 10 yet.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @dafyre
                                last edited by DustinB3403

                                @dafyre OK but... 8GB Swap

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Maybe if I half it....

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Maybe if I half it....

                                    I've always run no bigger than 4GB for a desktop OS... Depending on your uses, probably 2GB would be enough... and just set the min & max to be the same.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      That's a huge page file. Even in the Windows NT 4 days the recommended was "real memory size + 11MB". Today swap of half memory is normally more than enough.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        From Microsoft: "If you receive warnings that your virtual memory is low, you'll need to increase the minimum size of your paging file. Windows sets the initial minimum size of the paging file equal to the amount of random access memory (RAM) installed on your computer, and the maximum size equal to three times the amount of RAM installed on your computer. If you see warnings at these recommended levels, then increase the minimum and maximum sizes."

                                        It would've made sense if the SWAP was at 3 times, but it was only doubled.... WTF microsoft.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          From Microsoft: "If you receive warnings that your virtual memory is low, you'll need to increase the minimum size of your paging file. Windows sets the initial minimum size of the paging file equal to the amount of random access memory (RAM) installed on your computer, and the maximum size equal to three times the amount of RAM installed on your computer. If you see warnings at these recommended levels, then increase the minimum and maximum sizes."

                                          It would've made sense if the SWAP was at 3 times, but it was only doubled.... WTF microsoft.

                                          The page file will autosize itself... If it doesn't need it, it won't take all of it... but if it does need 3x your ram, your computer will be slower than molasses flowing up hill in the dead of winter.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            Well I half'd it, set the minimum to 1GB and the Max to 4Gb and now have a Committed of 1.4/9.0GB...

                                            So yeah this VM can't do math... or something else is scaling it..

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