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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      @JaredBusch said:

      @Dashrender said:

      I've been on HP for the last 7 years

      I prefer dell only because their website sucks less for finding drivers?

      Does HP have driver packages for all models to use with WDS like Dell does?

      No idea honestly, but if they do you will never find them anyway.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        I've not had to buy much in the last year or so,.. but prefer Dell over some due to it just work(ed). Not to mention I knew the line.

        I got swayed to try HP Laptops and their port applicators... what a fiasco that was. I really wanted real honest to goodness dock. Seems that some are going to USB only.. which caused issues with display and printer installs.

        NTM - Video, Audio, Network, etc all went through the one USB 3.0 thread....

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          Jason Banned
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          Doesn't HP still have real laptop docks in the business line?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Jason
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            @Jason said:

            Doesn't HP still have real laptop docks in the business line?

            Last that I knew.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Now that HP and HPE are not the same company, I doubt that HP laptops will remain a standard for us. Having them as a stand alone company is just, weird.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Jason
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                @Jason said:

                Doesn't HP still have real laptop docks in the business line?

                They have them only in one line, the EliteBook.

                Laptop: L4A22UT
                Dock: D9Y32UT

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                  Alex Sage
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                  Lenovo

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    There is also the possibility of leaving the traditional laptop world. Asus makes good hardware, for example, and actually makes a lot of the HP hardware. I've not used them for business but assume that they would be a potentially viable choice.

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                      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      There is also the possibility of leaving the traditional laptop world. Asus makes good hardware, for example, and actually makes a lot of the HP hardware. I've not used them for business but assume that they would be a potentially viable choice.

                      Asus Lacks good support. They also don't have docks.

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                        Jason Banned @Alex Sage
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                        @anonymous said:

                        Lenovo

                        No thanks.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jason
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                          @Jason said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          There is also the possibility of leaving the traditional laptop world. Asus makes good hardware, for example, and actually makes a lot of the HP hardware. I've not used them for business but assume that they would be a potentially viable choice.

                          Asus Lacks good support. They also don't have docks.

                          Oh yeah, docks are going to be the hardest part I think. I think for serious equipment that you are stuck with just HP or Dell then. Don't even know if there is another player at all.

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                            Jason Banned
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                            To bad there's no true Gateway anymore.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              LOL. I hope you are kidding 🙂

                              Who devoured them anyway? Are they still around in some form?

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                              • PSX_DefectorP
                                PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
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                                Gateway was bought up by eMachines which in turn was bought up by Acer.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Hard to believe Gateway could be bought up by eMachines. eM always seemed so little. What awful, awful companies. Why did any of them want any of the rest of them. LOL.

                                  They were each, in turn, the Packard Bell of their time.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I'm not sure why JB has such a hard time finding HP drivers, They are super easy for me. From the Drivers page you type the full name of the product and it takes you to a listing of the drivers.

                                    IBM was the worse because there were often 3-5 different drivers for say video, etc all on the same model device.

                                    As for driver packs, yes HP has them, but for anything other than the Elite series they suck because they don't update them after the initial release, perhaps one additional update.

                                    HP does suffer from not updating drivers for older machines. What I mean is, even if there actually is a newer driver because the hardware made it into 2 or 3 model year newer models... HP doesn't update the website pointing to the newer drivers on the older machine.

                                    A great example is the Touchpad driver. If you have 3 year old machine, at best you'll have a 1 year old driver, but more likely 2+ years old... even though that same line of devices, using fully compatible drivers with both old and new devices. If you want the newer driver, you have to guess what laptops might have a compatible driver and just try it.

                                    This is probably something that IBM was the best at. From my past experience (more than 10 years ago) Dell's drivers were so proprietary that rarely would drives work from one device to the next, so getting new ones once the driver page stopped providing them simply meant that there were no newer ones.

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                                    • garak0410G
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                                      Not as of yet. I've gone 98% Optiplex for workstations (I and one other have an XPS). We also use their servers. But I have to say, we had some DRAC issues last April that caused the VM's to slow to a crawl. It was pretty bad and took them a few weeks to realize we needed a lot of firmware updates. But they were easy to get a hold of, even at 2AM.

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Hard to believe Gateway could be bought up by eMachines. eM always seemed so little. What awful, awful companies. Why did any of them want any of the rest of them. LOL.

                                        They were each, in turn, the Packard Bell of their time.

                                        Not to go off subject, but didn't Gateway own Amiga for a while?

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                                        • iroalI
                                          iroal @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I've been on HP for the last 7 years

                                          I prefer dell only because their website sucks less for finding drivers?

                                          I agree, in Dell Webpage you can download drivers from a laptop with 10 years in second, that's impossible in Hp.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                            @garak0410 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Hard to believe Gateway could be bought up by eMachines. eM always seemed so little. What awful, awful companies. Why did any of them want any of the rest of them. LOL.

                                            They were each, in turn, the Packard Bell of their time.

                                            Not to go off subject, but didn't Gateway own Amiga for a while?

                                            Oh yeah, forgot about that!

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