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    Up to $400 off Microsoft Windows Server Datacenter 2012 R2 at NewEgg

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    • Ambarishrh
      Ambarishrh last edited by

      Just got this email from Petri IT froum
      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416797

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller last edited by

        Wow. Now that is a Christmas deal!

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        • Dashrender
          Dashrender last edited by

          worthless, OEM

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller last edited by

            Oh, that sucks.

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            • J
              Jason Banned last edited by

              I didn't realize you could even get data center OEM. Makes no sense. Standard can make sense if you get it cheap bundled with a server.. But datacenter no way.

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller last edited by

                DC might actually make more sense. With Standard you are typically in a small shop and need it to move around. DC is generally for big shops where they might actually do a "license every device" approach and it not be as bad as it sounds.

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                • brianlittlejohn
                  brianlittlejohn last edited by

                  I can see a case for DC OEM, the price difference between OEM and VL is only $1300ish... prob not enough to justify losing the VL benefits.

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                  • StrongBad
                    StrongBad last edited by

                    In a case where people put a DC license on every box, what are the VL benefits?

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                    • JaredBusch
                      JaredBusch @StrongBad last edited by

                      @StrongBad said:

                      In a case where people put a DC license on every box, what are the VL benefits?

                      The only one I can think of is the ability to move it to new hardware. But seriously, if you have DC on all the hardware and one completely dies and cannot be part swapped to recover, then just buy another copy of DC. Generally you will never need worry about it until you get new hardware in 5+ years.

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller last edited by

                        I think that this is mostly like desktops and the DC OEM might actually make some sense . If you are dedicated to Windows everywhere (or everywhere on a specific farm like in an enterprise) and have support agreements on the hardware, the lower cost of the license might actually make sense here.

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                        • brianlittlejohn
                          brianlittlejohn @JaredBusch last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @StrongBad said:

                          In a case where people put a DC license on every box, what are the VL benefits?

                          The only one I can think of is the ability to move it to new hardware. But seriously, if you have DC on all the hardware and one completely dies and cannot be part swapped to recover, then just buy another copy of DC. Generally you will never need worry about it until you get new hardware in 5+ years.

                          Downgrade rights is the only other benefit I can think of.

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller last edited by

                            One could argue that in many cases getting downgrade rights just enables doing things poorly or lazily. Sometimes not getting them is kind of a good thing.

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                              Jason Banned @StrongBad last edited by

                              @StrongBad said:

                              In a case where people put a DC license on every box, what are the VL benefits?

                              Moving hardware. We replace servers every three years. So this would suck. Also not having down grade rights is a deal breaker for us.

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                                Jason Banned @brianlittlejohn last edited by

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                I can see a case for DC OEM, the price difference between OEM and VL is only $1300ish... prob not enough to justify losing the VL benefits.

                                Not even that much of a difference with our EA.

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                                • Dashrender
                                  Dashrender @Jason last edited by

                                  @Jason said:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  I can see a case for DC OEM, the price difference between OEM and VL is only $1300ish... prob not enough to justify losing the VL benefits.

                                  Not even that much of a difference with our EA.

                                  You're an outside case here, very few of us besides you are large enough to consider let alone have an EA.

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                                  • J
                                    Jason Banned @Dashrender last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    I can see a case for DC OEM, the price difference between OEM and VL is only $1300ish... prob not enough to justify losing the VL benefits.

                                    Not even that much of a difference with our EA.

                                    You're an outside case here, very few of us besides you are large enough to consider let alone have an EA.

                                    EA starts off pretty low, at like 250 users you can get in on it at some level.

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      I can see a case for DC OEM, the price difference between OEM and VL is only $1300ish... prob not enough to justify losing the VL benefits.

                                      Not even that much of a difference with our EA.

                                      You're an outside case here, very few of us besides you are large enough to consider let alone have an EA.

                                      Although to consider the DC OEM useful, you'd need to be pretty large in most cases.

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