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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      We aren't saying that your Cisco ASA isn't just fine here... only that if you are going to spend over $65 on it, you would be better off getting a higher end (same security, better throughput) Ubiquiti and being able to support it yourself.

      Supporting it yourself is another important aspect of security, as well.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        We aren't saying that your Cisco ASA isn't just fine here... only that if you are going to spend over $65 on it, you would be better off getting a higher end (same security, better throughput) Ubiquiti and being able to support it yourself.

        Supporting it yourself is another important aspect of security, as well.

        $90 generally btw for the ERL.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Oh right, I had the entry level AP price in my head. $90 - $95 for the ERL.

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          • toxophiliteT
            toxophilite @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller

            That's amazing. I can get the ERPro-8 for two hours worth of support on my ASA!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @toxophilite
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              @toxophilite said:

              @scottalanmiller

              That's amazing. I can get the ERPro-8 for two hours worth of support on my ASA!

              The amazing bit is what a rip off Cisco equipment is. Less quality, 1,000% of the price. The ERPro-8 performs at the rate of like the biggest gear that Cisco makes. The ERL for $95 is about the same performance as a $3,000 Cisco ASA. The Pro-8 would take over $10K from Cisco to try to match!

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                We aren't saying that your Cisco ASA isn't just fine here... only that if you are going to spend over $65 on it, you would be better off getting a higher end (same security, better throughput) Ubiquiti and being able to support it yourself.

                Supporting it yourself is another important aspect of security, as well.

                What's going to allow him to support the ERL himself any more than he could support the ASA?

                Both boil down to his personal desire to learn the coding language so he can manage them himself.
                And both allow him to post his current config and his desired result to get a solution from communities like this one.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  ERL has a built in web interface. I think most people find it much easier than an ASA to manage. ASAs are designed to be obtuse intentionally to promote the sale of support but the companies out doing the sales for Cisco. ERLs are not.

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                  • DashrenderD
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                    Don't take this as an excuse to not buy into UBNT stuff - you should if for no other reason that the hardware is super cheap compared to Cisco, etc.

                    You'll probably pay the same for support in either case.

                    Though, one thing I've used before - if you have a valid SmartNet contract, Cisco will write the config changes you need for any changes you want to make to your network - no extra charge.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      You'll probably pay the same for support in either case.

                      Not likely, like Cisco gear, Cisco support is normally charged at a premium.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        @toxophilite said:

                        @Dashrender

                        That's what I'm beginning to think. Unfortunately I don't know the ASA very well. I'll need to bring someone in.

                        You need to bring someone in just to type Enable and Show Running-config ?

                        But since you can't get an ERL most likely until tomorrow at the earliest - it would be great to see a copy of your configuration.

                        Log into the ASA, get into enabled mode (type 'enable' hit enter, type the enable password, then type 'sh running-config' copy the output to notepad. Read over it and delete anything that looks sensitive, then post it here.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          You'll probably pay the same for support in either case.

                          Not likely, like Cisco gear, Cisco support is normally charged at a premium.

                          NTG charges more for Cisco support than they do for UBNT support?

                          My experience has been any kind of firewall support runs anywhere from $125-$600/hr. The most expensive being Firewall-1. It's been ages since I've paid for firewall support, I think it was around $150/hr.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            You'll probably pay the same for support in either case.

                            Not likely, like Cisco gear, Cisco support is normally charged at a premium.

                            NTG charges more for Cisco support than they do for UBNT support?

                            WE don't, but we aren't a Cisco reseller either, as nearly anyone dealing with Cisco is going to turn to. Although ERL support goes faster than Cisco support, so it is cheaper naturally as it is cheaper to support.

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