Backup Solution - Recommendations
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@Nic said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Nic said:
For big disasters you want something geographically far enough away. Taking backups home if you live near work won't help if there's a huge fire or earthquake. I'd have at least some type of online backup that's stored in another area of the country for this worst-case scenario.
Although you have to gauge the business too... is there a reason to remain functional in those scenarios? If you manage an auto-garage, even a super busy one worth many millions, and a hurricane hits and the streets are underwater... is there any need to stay in operational status? Not really. It's very subjective.
True, but even then you're going to want to have your customer data eventually, once you get back up and running. Not to mention tax info.
You can go to slow cloud for "eventual tax records" though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Although you have to gauge the business too... is there a reason to remain functional in those scenarios? If you manage an auto-garage, even a super busy one worth many millions, and a hurricane hits and the streets are underwater... is there any need to stay in operational status? Not really. It's very subjective.
I live about 20 minutes from my office. I always feel if there was a disaster that destroyed my house and office, I'd have beigger issues to think about than data.
Still doesn't mean I wouldn't want it protected. But that I would be doing other things.
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@BRRABill I once had a meeting about making a DR plan in case BOTH of our datacenters in Singapore were nuked and what would we do it that happened. And the risk was considered large enough that we built a tertiary datacenter in Hong Kong...
because even if Singapore was nuked off of the map we were concerned about stock trading?
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OK so I've been told by BackupAssit the reason for the failing backups is the Disk is about to die.
Question is which disk! I have a 8x 300GB SAS in RAID10. My Dell iDRAC is showing green across the board. -
@hobbit666 said:
OK so I've been told by BackupAssit the reason for the failing backups is the Disk is about to die.
Question is which disk! I have a 8x 300GB SAS in RAID10. My Dell iDRAC is showing green across the board.Why do they think that?
What are they seeing that the DELL diags are not? (Are these DELL drive?)
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@BRRABill said:
Why do they think that?
What are they seeing that the DELL diags are not? (Are these DELL drive?)
There an Event ID 52 disk (on disk DR2) in the event logs for the HyperV server. But I think disk 2 is the RDX drive.
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@hobbit666 said:
There an Event ID 52 disk (on disk DR2) in the event logs for the HyperV server. But I think disk 2 is the RDX drive.
Can you post the whole instance from the event log? Someone here can figure it out I am sure. Or at least see if it is indeed the RDX drive.
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@BRRABill
Yeah looks like RDX drive is the issue not the sever
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@hobbit666
Log Name: System
Source: disk
Date: 08/12/2015 08:34:18
Event ID: 52
Task Category: None
Level: Warning
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: WHSHYPV
Description:
The driver has detected that device \Device\Harddisk2\DR2 has predicted that it will fail. Immediately back up your data and replace your hard disk drive. A failure may be imminent.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="disk" />
<EventID Qualifiers="32772">52</EventID>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2015-12-08T08:34:18.267757800Z" />
<EventRecordID>28908</EventRecordID>
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>WHSHYPV</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>\Device\Harddisk2\DR2</Data>
<Binary>0F0080000100000000000000340004800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000007333500100000000FFFFFFFF020000005800008402000000FF200612080130100000000028000000000000000000000080838DA100E0FFFF000000000000000010D08DA100E0FFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000700006000000000A000000005A0100000000000000000000</Binary>
</EventData>
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Since this is RDX, does this happen on every cartridge you use?
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@BRRABill
Seems to now over the last 2-3 weeks. -
@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill
Seems to now over the last 2-3 weeks.Might be time to try a different RDX drive, I suppose! Do you have more than 1? Thank goodness they are pretty reasonable.
We looked at RDX, and were using it for BackupExec before we switched to our Datto device.
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@BRRABill said:
@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill
Seems to now over the last 2-3 weeks.Might be time to try a different RDX drive, I suppose! Do you have more than 1? Thank goodness they are pretty reasonable.
We looked at RDX, and were using it for BackupExec before we switched to our Datto device.
Not to hand no. Might need to buy one and send it up. But that's why I'm considering alternatives.
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I'm still looking through scenarios on my end for some of these very things. We have SC working on some systems, but not replicating offsite.
We use Datto here, but agree it can be expensive for what you are looking to do, especially if you need additional MS licensing.
We also use StorageCraft which works well. You can set up a local device to backup to, and then replicate that offsite using their software. How far offsite (whether the StorageCraft cloud, other cloud providers, or just an alternative location such as another office) is up to you and totally customizable. You could also just plug in a USB drive and offload the SC images once a week or whatever. You could even keep using your RDX drive for that. (Though I wouldn't recommend it due to the cost difference between RDX cartridges and equivalent USB drives.) Depends on how much data you have and how quickly you need it restored.
The SC cloud also offers DR scenarios, though again that can get very pricey. (That's why Datto is so expensive, IMO.)
Once you start looking at the options, post some specific question and people will jump right in. @scottalanmiller is the king of storage and backup answers.
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@hobbit666 said:
OK so I've been told by BackupAssit the reason for the failing backups is the Disk is about to die.
Question is which disk! I have a 8x 300GB SAS in RAID10. My Dell iDRAC is showing green across the board.That doesn't make sense as BackupAssist should be talking to the RAID array, not individual disks. If the RAID array shows errors to applications down the chain it means that it has already failed. A failing disk could not be detected by an application. Not even a failed disk is detectable.
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@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill said:
Why do they think that?
What are they seeing that the DELL diags are not? (Are these DELL drive?)
There an Event ID 52 disk (on disk DR2) in the event logs for the HyperV server. But I think disk 2 is the RDX drive.
How would Hyper-V be seeing individual disks in a RAID array? Is this hardware or software RAID?
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@BRRABill said:
@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill
Seems to now over the last 2-3 weeks.Might be time to try a different RDX drive, I suppose! Do you have more than 1? Thank goodness they are pretty reasonable.
We looked at RDX, and were using it for BackupExec before we switched to our Datto device.
they should be cheap, it's little more than a USB adapter
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@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill said:
@hobbit666 said:
@BRRABill
Seems to now over the last 2-3 weeks.Might be time to try a different RDX drive, I suppose! Do you have more than 1? Thank goodness they are pretty reasonable.
We looked at RDX, and were using it for BackupExec before we switched to our Datto device.
Not to hand no. Might need to buy one and send it up. But that's why I'm considering alternatives.
Good time to consider tape. Any backup media that you have, you generally need to have multiple drives to handle it for reliability purposes.
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@BRRABill said:
You could even keep using your RDX drive for that. (Though I wouldn't recommend it due to the cost difference between RDX cartridges and equivalent USB drives.)
RDX drives are designed to be plugged and unplugged regularly and are shock resistant for travel. Those are their selling points. USB drives are better if they never move anywhere and are rarely plugged and unplugged.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
You could even keep using your RDX drive for that. (Though I wouldn't recommend it due to the cost difference between RDX cartridges and equivalent USB drives.)
RDX drives are designed to be plugged and unplugged regularly and are shock resistant for travel. Those are their selling points. USB drives are better if they never move anywhere and are rarely plugged and unplugged.
I typically think if you are making, say, a monthly backup, use a USB drive. They are at lezst half the cost.
If I had a drive I was carting back and forth every week or so, I'd probably still go USB, and just do it more regularily.
