How Big Will the Impact of Lets Encrypt Be?
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I've used StartSSL before. It's rather a significant pain. What surprises me more is that StartSSL never decided to just be more user friendly.
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I have been buying them from NameCheap with my domains, just $1.99 each when you purchase a domain.
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LetsEncrypt is super easy. Especially if you are running Linux systems... Generate cert, and in some cases, it can automagically configure Apache for you. Right now, I've got one cert up on my NGinx box at home, and another cert up on my C@C Server.
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@anonymous said:
I have been buying them from NameCheap with my domains, just $1.99 each when you purchase a domain.
You can get SSL from GoDaddy for similar prices when you get it new. It is the renewal where they make profit.
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@johnhooks said:
I still can't believe there aren't more people using the free StartSSL certificates. It is kind of a pain to get through the interface, but for the small amount of time it takes, it's a good trade off.
Start SSL is not easy compared to setting up Let's Encrypt. I use StartSSL in a number of places also. It is a solid choice, but Let's Encrypt will completely change things once they work out the kinks and get the automagic plugins for other systems besides Apache on Debian.
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Just finished setting this up on my owncloud server. It took maybe 5 minutes... The only problem is it is an old version of CentOS (6.5) so it is running an outdated version of Python. I really need to update that to the newest version.
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@coliver said:
Just finished setting this up on my owncloud server. It took maybe 5 minutes... The only problem is it is an old version of CentOS (6.5) so it is running an outdated version of Python. I really need to update that to the newest version.
That was supposedly fixed according to the github issue. If not there is a simple workaround to get Python 2.7 on your system. That workaround is how I found out what was missing in a core CentOS 7 install.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
Just finished setting this up on my owncloud server. It took maybe 5 minutes... The only problem is it is an old version of CentOS (6.5) so it is running an outdated version of Python. I really need to update that to the newest version.
That was supposedly fixed according to the github issue. If not there is a simple workaround to get Python 2.7 on your system.
Yep, they threw an error telling me to please update. Then said to just add the --debug flag to the command. Worked well after that.
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@JaredBusch said:
@johnhooks said:
I still can't believe there aren't more people using the free StartSSL certificates. It is kind of a pain to get through the interface, but for the small amount of time it takes, it's a good trade off.
Start SSL is not easy compared to setting up Let's Encrypt. I use StartSSL in a number of places also. It is a solid choice, but Let's Encrypt will completely change things once they work out the kinks and get the automagic plugins for other systems besides Apache on Debian.
OH most definitely. I haven't used it yet but the how to made it look really simple. I guess I'm just more surprised there aren't more websites with ssl since it's available for free already.
This is awesome though, esp since it can be scripted or used with an orchestration tool.
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They are also talking about an easy to use auto-renew tool. Although looking at some of the command flags you could easily do this now without much issue.
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@johnhooks said:
@JaredBusch said:
@johnhooks said:
I still can't believe there aren't more people using the free StartSSL certificates. It is kind of a pain to get through the interface, but for the small amount of time it takes, it's a good trade off.
Start SSL is not easy compared to setting up Let's Encrypt. I use StartSSL in a number of places also. It is a solid choice, but Let's Encrypt will completely change things once they work out the kinks and get the automagic plugins for other systems besides Apache on Debian.
OH most definitely. I haven't used it yet but the how to made it look really simple. I guess I'm just more surprised there aren't more websites with ssl since it's available for free already.
This is awesome though, esp since it can be scripted or used with an orchestration tool.
SSL is not easy yet. Once Let's Encrypt is solid, I highly suspect that Apache and NginX will eventually update to have SSL enabled by default. That is the kind of far reaching impact that I expect out of Let's Encrypt.
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@johnhooks Yepp! Just link /path/to/your/cert.crt to /etc/letsencrypt/live/your.domain.local/cert.pem and the same for the key / privkey.pem and set it to run every 30 to 60 days. And do your /happy dance.
I haven't see anything about this though... Is it available for Python on Windows or is it still strictly Linux only?
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@dafyre said:
@johnhooks Yepp! Just link /path/to/your/cert.crt to /etc/letsencrypt/live/your.domain.local/cert.pem and the same for the key / privkey.pem and set it to run every 30 to 60 days. And do your /happy dance.
I haven't see anything about this though... Is it available for Python on Windows or is it still strictly Linux only?
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
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@coliver said:
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
I am going to be doing that sometime this week in fact.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
I am going to be doing that sometime this week in fact.
Yep, I was looking at it earlier. The PEM keys look like they should be compatible with the Windows Certificate store.
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
I am going to be doing that sometime this week in fact.
Yep, I was looking at it earlier. The PEM keys look like they should be compatible with the Windows Certificate store.
Then the issue becomes scripting it in such a way that it can be automated on Windows too... Especially since the cert lifetime is only 90 days.
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@dafyre said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
I am going to be doing that sometime this week in fact.
Yep, I was looking at it earlier. The PEM keys look like they should be compatible with the Windows Certificate store.
Then the issue becomes scripting it in such a way that it can be automated on Windows too... Especially since the cert lifetime is only 90 days.
Yep, that is a concern. I can probably work up a short script on Linux to move the files to a Windows box. Then write a powershell script to replace a certificate file and private key. I'm not sure if you can interact with the certificate store with powershell though.
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@coliver said:
@dafyre said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
You could make the keys in Linux and move them to a Windows box. They don't seem to support Windows yet though.
I am going to be doing that sometime this week in fact.
Yep, I was looking at it earlier. The PEM keys look like they should be compatible with the Windows Certificate store.
Then the issue becomes scripting it in such a way that it can be automated on Windows too... Especially since the cert lifetime is only 90 days.
Yep, that is a concern. I can probably work up a short script on Linux to move the files to a Windows box. Then write a powershell script to replace a certificate file and private key. I'm not sure if you can interact with the certificate store with powershell though.
It looks like it is possible... http://blogs.technet.com/b/scotts-it-blog/archive/2014/12/30/working-with-certificates-in-powershell.aspx
Not sure what version of Powershell that is yet... I just glanced over the article and don't see any requirements... I would assume At least PS 3.0 (Article was written Dec 30, 2014)
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When is ML going to have SSL? There is really not any reason not to do it. Either StartSSL for a 1 year cert of Let's Encrypt.
Either way, @Minion-Queen , just (make your minions) do it.
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@JaredBusch said:
When is ML going to have SSL? There is really not any reason not to do it. Either StartSSL for a 1 year cert of Let's Encrypt.
Either way, @Minion-Queen , just (make your minions) do it.
Out of curiosity what is the driver for ML to be encrypted? It isn't highly sensitive data and your password shouldn't be the same as anywhere else. I could understand from a reputation point-of-view but I don't, necessarily, see the technical one.
