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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry. -
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
The stretch through Albany is terrible, delays of 2-6 hours are standard. Chicago to Rochester, i thought, was pretty reliable, but have not taken it. For a vacation it is perfectly fine, your schedule is your own. I would do it too.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry.Hmm, we were thinking of picking up either in Syracuse or Utica... the southern-tier has basically nothing as far as commuter rail goes.
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry.Hmm, we were thinking of picking up either in Syracuse or Utica... the southern-tier has basically nothing as far as commuter rail goes.
Literally nothing. No trains the whole way.
Utica has the best station. My favourite Amtrak station anywhere. I use it all of the time. It's grand. nothing like the boring box in Rochester.
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They are starting to put in a New Station in Rochester next summer (it wont be done by Saturday).
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry.Hmm, we were thinking of picking up either in Syracuse or Utica... the southern-tier has basically nothing as far as commuter rail goes.
Literally nothing. No trains the whole way.
Utica has the best station. My favourite Amtrak station anywhere. I use it all of the time. It's grand. nothing like the boring box in Rochester.
They are trying to get a commuter rail in place from Oneonta to Cooperstown and want to tie it into Utica in the next 5-7 years.... funding is starting to be an issue though.
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@Minion-Queen said:
They are starting to put in a New Station in Rochester next summer (it wont be done by Saturday).
They've been putting that in for a long time. I saw the hole in the ground when I was at the train station this past summer.
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@Minion-Queen said:
They are starting to put in a New Station in Rochester next summer (it wont be done by Saturday).
They were working on that when I was in school there I think... that was 3 years ago.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry.Hmm, we were thinking of picking up either in Syracuse or Utica... the southern-tier has basically nothing as far as commuter rail goes.
Literally nothing. No trains the whole way.
Utica has the best station. My favourite Amtrak station anywhere. I use it all of the time. It's grand. nothing like the boring box in Rochester.
They are trying to get a commuter rail in place from Oneonta to Cooperstown and want to tie it into Utica in the next 5-7 years.... funding is starting to be an issue though.
That would be amazing but I don't see it happening. What a weird run to add, but absolutely perfect for me as I always want to specifically go from Utica to Cooperstown. So sad that it is down the road, not now. My SIL was from Utica and went to Oneonta, that would have been perfect for her. And my in laws are moving out of Utica next year, so too late for us to use.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Best non-stop i can get currently out of O'Hare is $270. Still deciding if I want to drive or fly.
There is a train for you too, direct. But it is long.
I will never take Amtrak anywhere that I want to get to on a schedule.
Is Amtrak bad from NY to Chicago? We are thinking about visiting some my wife's family this summer and she wants to take the train.
If you want to be on a schedule, Amtrak is bad for everywhere outside the NY to DC run.
For vacation, it could be easily doable if you are not in a hurry.Hmm, we were thinking of picking up either in Syracuse or Utica... the southern-tier has basically nothing as far as commuter rail goes.
Literally nothing. No trains the whole way.
Utica has the best station. My favourite Amtrak station anywhere. I use it all of the time. It's grand. nothing like the boring box in Rochester.
They are trying to get a commuter rail in place from Oneonta to Cooperstown and want to tie it into Utica in the next 5-7 years.... funding is starting to be an issue though.
That would be amazing but I don't see it happening. What a weird run to add, but absolutely perfect for me as I always want to specifically go from Utica to Cooperstown. So sad that it is down the road, not now. My SIL was from Utica and went to Oneonta, that would have been perfect for her. And my in laws are moving out of Utica next year, so too late for us to use.
Yep, it has been talked about a lot lately it seems that more and more people are coming to the colleges from the northeast and a train route would be a huge incentive to bring students in. They also want to alleviate some of the traffic during baseball season on 88. Oneonta used to be the central hub for most of the southern-tier rail... all of the right-of-ways still exist from what I've read.
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NY needs to do something to reinvent themselves. They need to look to Europe and build out a serious public transportation system. NY is too deep to go to the low tax systems that Texas or Florida do to inspire growth. They and California need to go European with high taxes and huge social services to make it work. They could do it, if they are smart about it. They need a LOT of rail and they need it to really work, unlike it is today. But the I90 corridor and the ST corridor are so dense and linear that they could, even with all the open space, pull off a European style structure out there if they were smart.
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If they did a better rail system in NY more people would travel into the City. I know if the train was more reliable I would take it to NYC instead of driving every time.
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@Minion-Queen said:
If they did a better rail system in NY more people would travel into the City. I know if the train was more reliable I would take it to NYC instead of driving every time.
My situation is different as Illinois is not as densly populated as the east coast, but that unreliability is exactly why I have to drive to St Louis and back every two weeks instead of taking a train.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Minion-Queen said:
If they did a better rail system in NY more people would travel into the City. I know if the train was more reliable I would take it to NYC instead of driving every time.
My situation is different as Illinois is not as densly populated as the east coast, but that unreliability is exactly why I have to drive to St Louis and back every two weeks instead of taking a train.
How long does that trip take you?
how many miles is it?
I'm guessing your hourly, are you getting paid overtime when you drive outside of work hours?I wonder if it could be economical for you to fly instead?
Statistically it's safer.
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Oh where I am is not densely populated at all (there are literally more cows than people in our county and like 3 surrounding).
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@Minion-Queen said:
Oh where I am is not densely populated at all (there are literally more cows than people in our county and like 3 surrounding).
I said east coast as a generalizaiton. not specifically upstate new york
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This one is for @JaredBusch
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@scottalanmiller said:
NY needs to do something to reinvent themselves. They need to look to Europe and build out a serious public transportation system. NY is too deep to go to the low tax systems that Texas or Florida do to inspire growth. They and California need to go European with high taxes and huge social services to make it work. They could do it, if they are smart about it. They need a LOT of rail and they need it to really work, unlike it is today. But the I90 corridor and the ST corridor are so dense and linear that they could, even with all the open space, pull off a European style structure out there if they were smart.
NY city should just become it's own state then the rest of us in upstate NY can quit paying for their turd shaped island. Taxes are high enough already. We just need to be smarter how we use them.
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Upstate NY has been trying to drop NYC for decades.
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@quicky2g said:
@scottalanmiller said:
NY needs to do something to reinvent themselves. They need to look to Europe and build out a serious public transportation system. NY is too deep to go to the low tax systems that Texas or Florida do to inspire growth. They and California need to go European with high taxes and huge social services to make it work. They could do it, if they are smart about it. They need a LOT of rail and they need it to really work, unlike it is today. But the I90 corridor and the ST corridor are so dense and linear that they could, even with all the open space, pull off a European style structure out there if they were smart.
NY city should just become it's own state then the rest of us in upstate NY can quit paying for their turd shaped island. Taxes are high enough already. We just need to be smarter how we use them.
I would love to see what the tax burden on upstate NY is compared to NYC. I've heard that upstate pays for NYC and I've heard the NYC pays for upstate in pretty much the same sentence before.
