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    Real Time Replication and Failover for VMware

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Alex Sage
      last edited by

      @anonymous said:

      It seems VMware vSphere Essentials has vSphere vMotion, but can I use it without shared storage or a VSA?

      good question - @scottalanmiller ?

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        Alex Sage @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 But what do you I use keep the VM replicated on both hosts?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Alex Sage
          last edited by

          @anonymous said:

          @DustinB3403 But what do you I use keep the VM replicated on both hosts?

          Without VSA or shared storage, you can't.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            a Virtual SAN.

            To keep them replicate (and running I'm assuming you mean) you'd also need additional windows licensing.

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              Alex Sage @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 Doesn't my data-center licence on each host cover this?

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                Alex Sage @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender What about if I had Hyper V or Xen?

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                • brianlittlejohnB
                  brianlittlejohn @Alex Sage
                  last edited by

                  @anonymous I know hyper-v will allow you to replicate every minute. (I do that)

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @brianlittlejohn
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                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    @anonymous I know hyper-v will allow you to replicate every minute. (I do that)

                    @brianlittlejohn just paged everyone on mangolassi.it to read this topic... HAHA

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                      Alex Sage @brianlittlejohn
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                      @brianlittlejohn And when you lose a host, no problem?

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 How did I do that?

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                          Alex Sage @brianlittlejohn
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                          @brianlittlejohn No, I am asking if you have ever lost a host, and had the systems stay up?

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn @Alex Sage
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                            @anonymous You will have downtime until the vm boots on the other host. Not to mention the loss of a minute or two of data.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @brianlittlejohn
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @DustinB3403 How did I do that?

                              By paging anonymous

                              🙂

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Alex Sage
                                last edited by

                                @anonymous said:

                                @brianlittlejohn No, I am asking if you have ever lost a host, and had the systems stay up?

                                Without shared storage or VSA, you cant have live failover, I don't think.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                  last edited by

                                  @anonymous said:

                                  @DustinB3403 VMware is already installed. They have data center licencing on both hosts. VMware is Essential Plus.

                                  You'll be reinstalling either way, though, right? No matter what licensing they have paid for, that's technical debt. Is there any reason to keep it? Even if VMware is free, I'm not aware of there being any value to keeping it except for "it's already there" but since you need to reinstall for your clustering, that does not appear to apply here.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @anonymous said:

                                    @brianlittlejohn No, I am asking if you have ever lost a host, and had the systems stay up?

                                    Without shared storage or VSA, you cant have live failover, I don't think.

                                    Nope, because when the one unit dies, the data is inaccessible and the other host has no means to grab it once it is already offline.

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:
                                      since you need to reinstall for your clustering, that does not appear to apply here.

                                      Why would I need to reinstall? o_0

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Alex Sage
                                        last edited by

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:
                                        since you need to reinstall for your clustering, that does not appear to apply here.

                                        Why would I need to reinstall? o_0

                                        In order to enable share or VSA storage.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                          last edited by

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          It seems VMware vSphere Essentials has vSphere vMotion, but can I use it without shared storage or a VSA?

                                          Ideally they want to use all local storage.

                                          You should have Storage vMotion that will let you do this. But that is useless once one of the hosts as failed.

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                                            Carnival Boy
                                            last edited by Carnival Boy

                                            Veeam will do replication and failover, if you have that. That's probably the cheapest and simplest solution for a 2 host setup.

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