Solved Backup of Office 365 Sharepoint sites
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@Dashrender said:
Let's think about @Ambarishrh's goal though. He wants to use ODfB to create a local backup of everything on the O365 SP site on his server, to be used by all of his users in case of a O365 outage.
I don't think creating such a share on the network server would be advisable. The potential for sync issues, corruption, etc would be pretty high.
You are correct, this will not work. It is fundamentally two different types and concepts of storage. Doing this would break all kinds of things like permissions, access controls, versioning, the ability to consistently locate files, etc.
ODfB works offline as it is. Just use it as it is meant to be used.
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What he really wants to do it sounds like to me, is to create a backup in case Microsoft Whoopsies and deletes their Sharpoint stuff... Did you ever get yours fixed?
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@scottalanmiller said:
ODfB works offline as it is. Just use it as it is meant to be used.
I.e. each end user will have to have ODfB setup and syncing everything they need offline access to synced directly to their own workstation.
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@dafyre said:
What he really wants to do it sounds like to me, is to create a backup in case Microsoft Whoopsies and deletes their Sharpoint stuff... Did you ever get yours fixed?
ODfB has you covered for that already, though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
What he really wants to do it sounds like to me, is to create a backup in case Microsoft Whoopsies and deletes their Sharpoint stuff... Did you ever get yours fixed?
ODfB has you covered for that already, though.
If you have ODfB setup.
What is NTG doing to backup their SP site on O365?
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We let MS handle that. MS takes backups already, same as an internal IT department would. It is "do you feel that you need another vendor of backups too" that is the question there. And the answer is easily yes, but that's what is being asked.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We let MS handle that. MS takes backups already, same as an internal IT department would. It is "do you feel that you need another vendor of backups too" that is the question there. And the answer is easily yes, but that's what is being asked.
If you want to recover a single file from yesterday, can you do that with MS and hosted SP?
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@Dashrender said:
If you want to recover a single file from yesterday, can you do that with MS and hosted SP?
While that's an interesting question.... can you think of any scenario where this would be required?
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@scottalanmiller If somebody accidentally deletes the Sharepoint document they were working on.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
If you want to recover a single file from yesterday, can you do that with MS and hosted SP?
While that's an interesting question.... can you think of any scenario where this would be required?
Uh.. yes. this is the biggest request when it comes to file recovery. "Hey I screwed up my file I've been using for months. Can you restore to the last backed up copy?"
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
If you want to recover a single file from yesterday, can you do that with MS and hosted SP?
While that's an interesting question.... can you think of any scenario where this would be required?
100% of the recoveries I've done in the last 4 years have been because someone either deleted a file or saved the wrong data over the top of an old file (forgot to rename).
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller If somebody accidentally deletes the Sharepoint document they were working on.
That's a function of Sharepoint, though, there is no need to go to backups. That's one of the reasons that you use Sharepoint in the first place or else you have to add that functionality to the filesystem.
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Sharepoint has built in versioning... this shouldn't be a call to IT users should have access to these versions of files.
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@Dashrender said:
Uh.. yes. this is the biggest request when it comes to file recovery. "Hey I screwed up my file I've been using for months. Can you restore to the last backed up copy?"
That's the beauty of version control systems instead of a filesystem!
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@Dashrender said:
100% of the recoveries I've done in the last 4 years have been because someone either deleted a file or saved the wrong data over the top of an old file (forgot to rename).
Thankfully our users really do not do that. But if they did, the files are right there
That's a 2003 problem. Microsoft has had this one solved for both Sharepoint AND for file servers since that time. -
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
If you want to recover a single file from yesterday, can you do that with MS and hosted SP?
While that's an interesting question.... can you think of any scenario where this would be required?
100% of the recoveries I've done in the last 4 years have been because someone either deleted a file or saved the wrong data over the top of an old file (forgot to rename).
Even in Windows SMB shares you should have Shadow Copy enabled... which would allow users to restore their own files.
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That was the huge selling point when 2003 came out. MS went on and on about that. We always had that until we moved completely away from using file servers.
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Not only did Windows 2003 and later have that but it exposed the ability to roll back a file to the end users so that they were able to go look for older versions for themselves without having to come to IT.
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Shadow copies are time based IIRC and not edit/modification based like Sharepoint, Alfresco, or any document management system that I have worked with. Which makes it significantly less useful.
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That is very true. The way that Sharepoint, MediaWiki and others handle it is much more advanced, efficient and useful.
