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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller

      Someone asked if Amazon Cloud Drive syncs like OneDrive, and you said no, because it was storage not backup.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @dafyre said:

        Hmm... Food for thought...

        Still thinking about this... If my hard drive dies and I re-install Amazon Cloud Drive (ACD), will it download all the files back to my computer, or can I just leave everything parked in ACD and just start adding stuff back to it?

        It's just storage, not a backup system.

        This is what I said. Nothing about OneDrive or ODfB in here.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          @scottalanmiller

          Someone asked if Amazon Cloud Drive syncs like OneDrive, and you said no, because it was storage not backup.

          That was me. I was asking if Amazon Cloud Drive did its syncing ike DropBox or if I had to manually move my files up.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            ah, and I was saying that it doesn't have a "restore" function. It's not backup NOR is it a sync. It is designed to hold files it is told to hold. It does not "mimic a local file structure" and have a method for restoring that.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              ah, and I was saying that it doesn't have a "restore" function. It's not backup NOR is it a sync. It is designed to hold files it is told to hold. It does not "mimic a local file structure" and have a method for restoring that.

              So you are also not classifyinig OneDrive, ODfB, or Dropbox as "backup", then, right?

              You've mentioned "storage" and "backup" a few times in various threads. I was just saying I think there is a third class, into which OneDrive and DropBox fall into.

              I would actually consider them storage. It functions the same as Amazon Cloud Drive, it's just easier to access your files.

              Or since those program tap into the local file system, do you not agree with that?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                ah, and I was saying that it doesn't have a "restore" function. It's not backup NOR is it a sync. It is designed to hold files it is told to hold. It does not "mimic a local file structure" and have a method for restoring that.

                So you are also not classifyinig OneDrive, ODfB, or Dropbox as "backup", then, right?

                You've mentioned "storage" and "backup" a few times in various threads. I was just saying I think there is a third class, into which OneDrive and DropBox fall into.

                I would actually consider them storage. It functions the same as Amazon Cloud Drive, it's just easier to access your files.

                Or since those program tap into the local file system, do you not agree with that?

                I would call OneDrive and DropBox and Amazon all storage - definitely not backups. OneDrive for Business is an edge case since it's part of SharePoint.

                OneDrive doesn't really tap into local storage other than keeping a sync'ed copy of files local. Normal Apps access those files through OneDrive, not directly to the file path, at least by default.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  OneDrive doesn't really tap into local storage other than keeping a sync'ed copy of files local. Normal Apps access those files through OneDrive, not directly to the file path, at least by default.

                  Is that how it works? I always assumed it did the stuff all local, and then just synced the changes.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    OneDrive doesn't really tap into local storage other than keeping a sync'ed copy of files local. Normal Apps access those files through OneDrive, not directly to the file path, at least by default.

                    Is that how it works? I always assumed it did the stuff all local, and then just synced the changes.

                    I'm sure you're exactly right - it works locally, but the applications don't see it working that way.. that's a technical thing that end users and apps don't understand or care about.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      OneDrive doesn't really tap into local storage other than keeping a sync'ed copy of files local. Normal Apps access those files through OneDrive, not directly to the file path, at least by default.

                      Is that how it works? I always assumed it did the stuff all local, and then just synced the changes.

                      Nope, because a lot of those apps don't talk to anything local and the online ones don't even have that option.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Nope, because a lot of those apps don't talk to anything local and the online ones don't even have that option.

                        I am thinking local apps, again because that is what I use. 🙂

                        For example, I am sure Word 2007 has no idea what OneDrive is.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Nope, because a lot of those apps don't talk to anything local and the online ones don't even have that option.

                          I am thinking local apps, again because that is what I use. 🙂

                          For example, I am sure Word 2007 has no idea what OneDrive is.

                          Only works because you are using old versions. Word doesn't have this option, just Word from a different era does. Assuming this decade, current systems.

                          Why do you have all these ancient apps? Office 2007 is seriously old.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Only works because you are using old versions. Word doesn't have this option, just Word from a different era does. Assuming this decade, current systems.

                            Why do you have all these ancient apps? Office 2007 is seriously old.

                            It works for what I need.

                            I could use a typewriter, probably.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Something I've always wondered, and is probably worth a thread, is I get why people use expensive software and I get why we use free but I rarely see a value in picking expensive software that we can't keep updated. Office makes sense to me, but if you are stuck on 2007, why not move to LibreOffice and be able to keep updated?

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Something I've always wondered, and is probably worth a thread, is I get why people use expensive software and I get why we use free but I rarely see a value in picking expensive software that we can't keep updated. Office makes sense to me, but if you are stuck on 2007, why not move to LibreOffice and be able to keep updated?

                                Cost of retraining users can be prohibitive for small companies.

                                Also, is it 100% compatible with all the funky macro's and lord knows what other garbage our users have created?

                                Will it still be there in 10 years? If we invest in the training will this company still be around making and updating it?

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Something I've always wondered, and is probably worth a thread, is I get why people use expensive software and I get why we use free but I rarely see a value in picking expensive software that we can't keep updated. Office makes sense to me, but if you are stuck on 2007, why not move to LibreOffice and be able to keep updated?

                                  Another decent one I've used for Linux is WPS Office. It's free on Linux and has the ribbon interface.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    WPS? Who makes that?

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      WPS? Who makes that?

                                      Used to be Kingsoft. It started on Android and they made a full suite.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        Cost of retraining users can be prohibitive for small companies.

                                        Exactly. LibreOffice lets you retain the same people and the same training decade after decade with the lowest cost up front and the lowest cost for training and you get to stay up to date and compatible with the least interruption and impact. Why go to all of the problems associated with running long outdated versions of Office, especially a version that had just caused the big Ribbon re-training?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          Also, is it 100% compatible with all the funky macro's and lord knows what other garbage our users have created?

                                          Will 2007? That stuff causes problems there moreso than on LibreOffice from what little exposure I've had. But that's talking about migrating now, I'm asking how the situation arose.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Something I've always wondered, and is probably worth a thread, is I get why people use expensive software and I get why we use free but I rarely see a value in picking expensive software that we can't keep updated. Office makes sense to me, but if you are stuck on 2007, why not move to LibreOffice and be able to keep updated?

                                            Cost of retraining users can be prohibitive for small companies.

                                            Also, is it 100% compatible with all the funky macro's and lord knows what other garbage our users have created?

                                            Will it still be there in 10 years? If we invest in the training will this company still be around making and updating it?

                                            I'm sure it will still be around. There are governments that have switched to the odt format.

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