Storage Question
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File servers often need to be local, but not always. We moved to tools like SharePoint / OneDrive for Business and ownCloud and did away with traditional file servers ourselves. But that is not for everyone.
What kind of file serving do you do? Our AD is 100% on Microsoft Azure and has been for some time now. That's easy to move to 100% colo or hosted. Email can go hosted very, very easily. File serving is your only potetial challenge.
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@scottalanmiller said:
File servers often need to be local, but not always. We moved to tools like SharePoint / OneDrive for Business and ownCloud and did away with traditional file servers ourselves. But that is not for everyone.
What kind of file serving do you do? Our AD is 100% on Microsoft Azure and has been for some time now. That's easy to move to 100% colo or hosted. Email can go hosted very, very easily. File serving is your only potetial challenge.
Right. E-mail I know 100% I can do. I just want to do that in the future. (Though co-locatiing the MDaemon server would not be out of the question in the near future.)
We do all sorts of file hosting. A lot of office files, but also all sorts of other business-related documents. Peachtree. Desktop DB files. Things like that. Is that what you meant?
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BTW, specifically what 3rd party RAID card would you recommend going with?
Seems like even from this site people aren't keen on the H310.
I reached out to xByte and EDGE directly to inquire about their SSDs. But perhaps I should upgrade my PERC card regardless.
I guess whatever the model equivalent to the entry level H710 would be fine for me.
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Hmm, I left work, picked up kids from soccer, and came home. And this thread quieted. Let's keep it going!!
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@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
That's what I want to know, too. Keep in mind we're using a 2003 Server from 2003. So all this stuff is new to me.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
That's what I want to know, too. Keep in mind we're using a 2003 Server from 2003. So all this stuff is new to me.
Looks like you can join a windows 10 PC to Azure. Not yet sure how Windows 7 and 8 play with it.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ad/archive/2015/05/28/azure-ad-join-on-windows-10-devices.aspx
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Assuming your files aren't huge (though DB's probably wouldn't be good colo) you could move everything we know of in your environment to a colo, use something like ZeroTier or Pertino to provide always access VPN though SDN (Software Defined Network). Both of these products install a virtual network card on every device, and allows all of those devices to talk to each other though a host machine (that machine can be hosted or manged by you).
You could have AD and email at the colo, and use one of your old servers as a secondary onsite AD and second file server to hold large files and DBs.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Depends on your specific needs. Generally no, but generally is 70% of the time, guesstimate. NTG went 100% colo about ten years ago, zero in house servers. Then went 100% cloud, nearly there now. So zero physical servers anywhere.Is it still an AD environment?
Yup, AD works great when not local.
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@BRRABill said:
We do all sorts of file hosting. A lot of office files, but also all sorts of other business-related documents. Peachtree. Desktop DB files. Things like that. Is that what you meant?
Desktop DB files?
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@BRRABill said:
BTW, specifically what 3rd party RAID card would you recommend going with?
Seems like even from this site people aren't keen on the H310.
I reached out to xByte and EDGE directly to inquire about their SSDs. But perhaps I should upgrade my PERC card regardless.
I guess whatever the model equivalent to the entry level H710 would be fine for me.
RAID cards are not something that you want to hear "entry level" associated with. I always want pretty high end RAID card. H710 with 1GB or 2GB cache and NVRAM would be good.
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@BRRABill said:
Hmm, I left work, picked up kids from soccer, and came home. And this thread quieted. Let's keep it going!!
Most everyone had to go out and get dinner or whatever
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
The old machines are on AD via Pertino. But that is going away as everything moves to Windows 10 and can connect directly to our AD that DirSyncs to Azure AD and Office 365.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
That's what I want to know, too. Keep in mind we're using a 2003 Server from 2003. So all this stuff is new to me.
Time to consider dropping all servers completely!
How much total storage are you using today?
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
That's what I want to know, too. Keep in mind we're using a 2003 Server from 2003. So all this stuff is new to me.
Looks like you can join a windows 10 PC to Azure. Not yet sure how Windows 7 and 8 play with it.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ad/archive/2015/05/28/azure-ad-join-on-windows-10-devices.aspx
It's only Windows 10. You don't get that feature if you don't upgrade.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Do you join PC's to an Azure AD? Or does that concept kinda go away?
That's what I want to know, too. Keep in mind we're using a 2003 Server from 2003. So all this stuff is new to me.
Looks like you can join a windows 10 PC to Azure. Not yet sure how Windows 7 and 8 play with it.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ad/archive/2015/05/28/azure-ad-join-on-windows-10-devices.aspx
It's only Windows 10. You don't get that feature if you don't upgrade.
LOL good thing I upgraded last night.
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Time to get back to the core of this thread. Just waiting on @BRRABill to wake up
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@scottalanmiller said:
Time to get back to the core of this thread. Just waiting on @BRRABill to wake up
Considering the new information - it really might be time to start a new thread.
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I am up and ready now.
I already purchased the server, so I am going to keep it in-house for now.
My head is still spinning a little bit from yesterday.
I spoke to xByte. Their SSD drives do indeed work with the DELL servers. They have a yellow exclamation point in OMSA, but apparently the front panels works as expected, so that might be an option.
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