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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So a local tape solution, carried off weekly.

      They can't be much heavier than the 22lbs box I take home weekly...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        So a local tape solution, carried off weekly.

        They can't be much heavier than the 22lbs box I take home weekly...

        Right, like far less than a pound 😉

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Wouldn't you carry off daily?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            Any recommendations on a product that can hold this. I haven't used any tapes in my experience.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Do disk to disk to tape. Disk backup kept onsite. Tape taken offsite.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Daily incrementals could be performed to a colo (or online storage service) easily enough. It's the fulls that would have to be run weekly.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  Any recommendations on a product that can hold this. I haven't used any tapes in my experience.

                  Any WILL hold it, it just takes more tapes the bigger it gets. You would determine your tape technology choice off of your delta rate, not your full rate.

                  LTO is the tape technology you would use. Which model, LTO 3, LTO 4 or LTO 5 (or the upcoming LTO 6) would be what you need to choose.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    You will want an automated tape library, of course.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Why is the backup SO large?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Total space for our current server fleet (all inclusive, 😄 drives and shares) is almost 6TB.

                        So in trying to create a reliable way to backup everything, in full and hold it for a month we'd need 24TB of space. Cycled monthly. Ideally I'd like to avoid having to go through 100 or 200 tapes.

                        Even 10 seems like a lot to manage.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          1 Tape per week that can hold 8TB (for growth) of space by it's self would be a good option. But do they exist? I'm inexperienced with tape backup solutions.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Why is the backup SO large?

                            Because he's only using the tapes for full backups, done weekly.

                            The incrementals would all be local backup storage only.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              1 Tape per week that can hold 8TB (for growth) of space by it's self would be a good option. But do they exist? I'm inexperienced with tape backup solutions.

                              Nope, you are quite far outside of the single tape size range.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                LTO 6 can store 6.25 TB uncompressed.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Assuming you went with a tape solution, could you dump the backup storage server at the remote site?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Why is the backup SO large?

                                    Because he's only using the tapes for full backups, done weekly.

                                    The incrementals would all be local backup storage only.

                                    That doesn't explain why they need 22TB of total backup, though. I know companies twice that size that need like a few hundred GB total backup.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      LTO 6 can store 6.25 TB uncompressed.

                                      And doesn't exist yet 😉

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Well the remote site hasn't been decided on. But if I had my choice it would be in Spain. A outreach office.

                                        Or a colo somewhere in the US.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          LTO 6 can store 6.25 TB uncompressed.

                                          And doesn't exist yet 😉

                                          Damn it....

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            Total space for our current server fleet (all inclusive, 😄 drives and shares) is almost 6TB.

                                            This implies you have outgrown the usefulness of the model. Consider moving to a more modern architecture. Backing up standard Windows and application files over and over again is not good for backups and definitely not good for recovery.

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