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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Not including the incrementals which are written ever hour, stored for 72 hours and then dumped.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

        Depends on the RAID level that you decide to use.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

            But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said:

              Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

              Then no, UREs are not a factor.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

                But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

                What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

                  Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

                      As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                          Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                            Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                            Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              It's a matter of reliability.

                              Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                                Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    It's a matter of reliability.

                                    Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                                    Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by DustinB3403

                                      Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                                      At RAID 6

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                                        At RAID 6

                                        So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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