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    Help choosing replacement Hyper-V host machines and connected storage

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      JohnFromSTL @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @JohnFromSTL said:

      [https://files.secureserver.net/0sxI5pJa5UT5Ux](22_oct_ (17_hr_25_min)-official_report_10_30_2015)
      https://files.secureserver.net/0she5PgIAN9ho5 30_oct_[(12_hour)-official_report_10_30_2015]

      Awesome, thanks for sharing.

      Man, you have some IOPs to spare. 95% at 457 IOPs, and a peak of 4165.

      Does it make a difference that I didn't select the individual VMs when running the DPACK analysis but selected the Hyper-V hosts instead? Our heavy usage is sporadic. The VMs which give us the most grief are SQL 2005 and Oracle 11g.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
        last edited by

        @JohnFromSTL It will matter as far as getting granular data and figuring out which VM is doing what. But for overall capacity it will be fine.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          I can't find a download link for DPACK.

          Isn't is free software?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            I can't find a download link for DPACK.

            Isn't is free software?

            Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said:

              I can't find a download link for DPACK.

              Isn't is free software?

              Free, yes. Public, no.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

                Dell internal app. Only Dell can provide it and only Dell can decrypt the output. Only Dell and select partners (NTG was the first and may remain the only) that can read them back for you. NTG reads back from non-sales engineering, Dell reads back from a sales channel capacity planning person who specs a 3-2-1 system for you from the details.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  So NTG has both the DPACK installers and the decryption software, so no need to talk to Dell at all?
                  @Minion-Queen ?

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                    Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

                    Dell internal app. Only Dell can provide it and only Dell can decrypt the output.

                    Seems some people have cracked it.
                    https://www.freelancer.co.uk/projects/C-Programming/Decode-the-Dell-dpack-file/

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Deleted74295
                      last edited by

                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

                      Dell internal app. Only Dell can provide it and only Dell can decrypt the output.

                      Seems some people have cracked it.
                      https://www.freelancer.co.uk/projects/C-Programming/Decode-the-Dell-dpack-file/

                      Interesting.. I wonder if the solution is for sale or going to be publicly posted?

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                      • Deleted74295D
                        Deleted74295 Banned @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Interesting.. I wonder if the solution is for sale or going to be publicly posted?

                        Pretty sure Dell's T&Cs prohibit selling the solution and their lawyers will come after anyone who tries it.

                        Now, if the soloution just ended up being distributed outside the control of anyone one individual, they would have a hard time. DPACK is a major tool in their sales arsenal for products. Maybe the engineering guys will re-write DPACK to counter it.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Deleted74295
                          last edited by

                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          Maybe the engineering guys will re-write DPACK to counter it.

                          That's just a never ending battle.

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                            Deleted74295 Banned
                            last edited by scottalanmiller

                            As the software and video game industries have learned, you cannot copy protect your software, ever. It's a never ending game of whack-a-mole.

                            Apparently, this is all he had to do. Little bit of PHP.

                            <?php
                            
                            $contents = file_get_contents("7daycapturePPP2.iokit");
                            
                            $newlines = 0;
                            for($i = 0; $i < strlen($contents); $i++)
                            {
                               if( ord($contents[$i]) == 10) {
                                  $newlines++;
                                  if($newlines == 2) {
                                    $original_header = substr($contents, 0, $i + 1);
                                    $contents = substr_replace($contents, "", 0, $i + 1);
                                    break;
                                  }
                               }
                            }
                            echo $original_header;
                            echo zlib_decode($contents);
                            ?>
                            
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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Deleted74295
                              last edited by

                              @Breffni-Potter said:

                              As the software and video game industries have learned, you cannot copy protect your software, ever. It's a never ending game of whack-a-mole.

                              Apparently, this is all he had to do. Little bit of PHP.

                              <?php

                              $contents = file_get_contents("7daycapturePPP2.iokit");

                              $newlines = 0;
                              for($i = 0; $i < strlen($contents); $i++)
                              {
                              if( ord($contents[$i]) == 10) {
                              $newlines++;
                              if($newlines == 2) {
                              $original_header = substr($contents, 0, $i + 1);
                              $contents = substr_replace($contents, "", 0, $i + 1);
                              break;
                              }
                              }
                              }
                              echo $original_header;
                              echo zlib_decode($contents);
                              ?>

                              LOL, did you just ask him and he gave you the info?

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                              • Deleted74295D
                                Deleted74295 Banned
                                last edited by

                                Pretty much!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  So NTG has both the DPACK installers and the decryption software, so no need to talk to Dell at all?
                                  @Minion-Queen ?

                                  No, you always have to "get the DPACK tool" from Dell. And Dell always has to physical decrypt it. But you get to choose if a 3-2-1 capacity planner sales person provides you with the results or if an NTG engineer does. In one case the results are presented as just capacity numbers for scaling your nodes and SAN. In the other it is a generic assessment that will help to look at broad needs including architecture and system design.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                                    last edited by

                                    @Breffni-Potter said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

                                    Dell internal app. Only Dell can provide it and only Dell can decrypt the output.

                                    Seems some people have cracked it.
                                    https://www.freelancer.co.uk/projects/C-Programming/Decode-the-Dell-dpack-file/

                                    I'm not surprised. I doubt Dell goes to great lengths to lock it down.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Nope, it's provided by Dell (and prehaps other vendors)

                                      Dell internal app. Only Dell can provide it and only Dell can decrypt the output.

                                      Seems some people have cracked it.
                                      https://www.freelancer.co.uk/projects/C-Programming/Decode-the-Dell-dpack-file/

                                      Interesting.. I wonder if the solution is for sale or going to be publicly posted?

                                      Not if that guy is based in the UK. And why would someone pay for it if Dell provides the results for free?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Not if that guy is based in the UK. And why would someone pay for it if Dell provides the results for free?

                                        I don't consider a sales pitch free, And I'm wondering since they went to the efforts of doing this free thing for you, will they put the high pressure on the sales pitch?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Not if that guy is based in the UK. And why would someone pay for it if Dell provides the results for free?

                                          I don't consider a sales pitch free, And I'm wondering since they went to the efforts of doing this free thing for you, will they put the high pressure on the sales pitch?

                                          That's a good point. My only counter to that is that.... nearly anyone willing to go through the effort of avoiding that sales pitch and using a solution like this to work around it likely will not be swayed by the sales pitch. Maybe I'm wrong, but I am guessing that that is true.

                                          It is a pretty high pressure process, from what I am told.

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                                            JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Not if that guy is based in the UK. And why would someone pay for it if Dell provides the results for free?

                                            I don't consider a sales pitch free, And I'm wondering since they went to the efforts of doing this free thing for you, will they put the high pressure on the sales pitch?

                                            That's a good point. My only counter to that is that.... nearly anyone willing to go through the effort of avoiding that sales pitch and using a solution like this to work around it likely will not be swayed by the sales pitch. Maybe I'm wrong, but I am guessing that that is true.

                                            It is a pretty high pressure process, from what I am told.

                                            From my initial conversation with the Dell enterprise sales rep he intimated that "we may disagree on certain issues, but at the end of the day be able to work together to come up with the best solution that fits our needs".

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