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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      He thought that he had vSAN, then realized it was an IPOD. Oops. Everything bad here. Textbook bad design, dollars to donuts he used a salesperson to do his job and got burned, moving from the best (Xen) to the worst (VMware), on and on.

      And maybe the saddest thing is that he posts this all proud like we aren't going to hang out heads in shame that he missed EVERY discussion about "how to talk to vendors", "SAN", inverted pyramids of doom and even the stock Dell sales scam of the last decade on SW. He definitely never asked anyone to check this over before turning the company's IT decision making over to a slimy sales guy.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller But Scott it's a great start to the new year for that sales person!

        I mean come on, by January 14th this was sold, and paid for!

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews
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          Here is one just getting started. No problems yet (other than overspending, as always) but lots of misunderstandings. The typical SMB misuse of NAS and SAN has helped to lead the OP a little ways down the garden path.

          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1400197-san-schooling-huge-cost-differences-help-me-understand-the-differences-please

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

            Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

              Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

              Yeah the OP requested that the SW Moderators delete the post... there is a cached copy without the OP's responses to the topic still on SW under scott's topic

              Somewhere in there...

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said:

                @travisdh1 said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

                Yeah the OP requested that the SW Moderators delete the post... there is a cached copy without the OP's responses to the topic still on SW under scott's topic

                Somewhere in there...

                /popcorn

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Here it is... the cached version.

                  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PX3rvobJoEsJ:https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-yup+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                    Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

                    It was taken down almost immediately. After the first questions about it the OP was too embarrassed by it. He got his info wrong then his exciting project turned out to be an embarrassing mistake. He started off okay and we were like "awesome, good job, good thing you didn't do.... the thing he actually did but had misstated because he didn't know the terms he was using."

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

                        A golf shop has a 2 host setup? Damn are they really a golf empire?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

                          And someone instantly recommends a SAN. Haha. The OP also wants to use RAID 5... did they not do any research before coming up with this?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Did you see RAID 5E!!! The worst RAID idea that there has ever been. So much worse than regularly RAID 5. Where do these ideas come from?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              Sometimes I feel like I'm reliving ground-hog day over and over again....

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Groundhog Forum?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @coliver
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                                  @coliver said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

                                  And someone instantly recommends a SAN. Haha. The OP also wants to use RAID 5... did they not do any research before coming up with this?

                                  They think they did, but they clearly didn't bump into the known problems articles when choosing RAID 5 - I didn't even think RAID 5E was real - apparently it was just killed before I started working on servers.

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                                  • AconboyA
                                    Aconboy @coliver
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                                    @coliver Had that happen in my lab SPa failover to SPb... not so much......

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      They think they did, but they clearly didn't bump into the known problems articles when choosing RAID 5 - I didn't even think RAID 5E was real - apparently it was just killed before I started working on servers.

                                      Yeah, they have a "requirement" that doesn't even exist in a product. How the heck are they looking at all of those products which don't even offer that. Then NetApp's rep from SW pops in and says that the OP "did his homework" ignoring the fact that his own requirements are nonsensical, impossible and specifically rule out the product that she is there to sell.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by Dashrender

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        They think they did, but they clearly didn't bump into the known problems articles when choosing RAID 5 - I didn't even think RAID 5E was real - apparently it was just killed before I started working on servers.

                                        Yeah, they have a "requirement" that doesn't even exist in a product. How the heck are they looking at all of those products which don't even offer that. Then NetApp's rep from SW pops in and says that the OP "did his homework" ignoring the fact that his own requirements are nonsensical, impossible and specifically rule out the product that she is there to sell.

                                        that Netapp person though, as you've educated me, isn't real - they are just some chickity who is there to respond with kind words and make people feel good about their posts.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          True, but isn't doing a good job of promoting the product, especially when NetApp has a reputation for being out of touch and inept already. Just adding to it by posting nonsense.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            True, but isn't doing a good job of promoting the product, especially when NetApp has a reputation for being out of touch and inept already. Just adding to it by posting nonsense.

                                            Sounds like she's doing a great job then... at being totally inept. 😄

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