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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      Here is another....

      • IPOD Design
      • Putting his backups onto the same SAN as product (e.g. no backups at all)

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1272509-how-should-lunds-be-configured-on-your-san

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Here is yet another one...

        Single Storage node and two compute nodes.

        @scottalanmiller is already on the topic.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          There was another one this morning that I need to track down the link for. It was three computer nodes on a single NetApp FAS2020, which is a decent small NAS and far better than what most people use for these things in an SMB, but still not what you would hope to see. But the OP, in that case, came at it from the fear of what he had, not that he thought that it was a good idea.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Found it: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1277735-newbie-ha-with-single-shared-storage

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @Garyw provided one today, very good one from a software coupling perspective:

              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1307155-another-example-of-the-san-os-being-a-single-point-of-failure

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Don't have the details but yet another lost MSA / DotHill SAN where the controllers did nothing to protect them:

                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1309837-desperate-lost-config-on-msa-2012i

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                • brianlittlejohnB
                  brianlittlejohn
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                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                  Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                    Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                    Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @stacksofplates
                      last edited by dafyre

                      @johnhooks Because that is the name that they know... at least for Virtualization.

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                        Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                        Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                        That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                          Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                          Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                          That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                          Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks said:

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                            Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                            Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                            That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                            Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                            They don't... most places think they are one in the same.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                              Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                              Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                              When someone is being guided by salesmen, the factors will remain the same. VMware is what makes someone money, as is selling HA features and SANs. The thing that makes someone try to sell one piece makes them try to sell all of them. All part of the same "being taken advantage of by sales people".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks said:

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                                Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                                I've been wondering about this as well. There are a LOT of people claiming to be IT people that are really just "IT buyers" who can't even tell when they are buying something reasonable or not.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates
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                                  So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

                                  "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    yeah, he has no idea what he is doing.... needs all these features today and is going to give them up someday when he goes to NetApp.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

                                      "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

                                      Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            yeah, bad setup of a bad design.

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