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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      Is it better, to build a VM to host ISO's from, or to use local storage directly in xen?

      On my rebuild last night I went with this: Using CCISS Storage

      Which is using the local CCISS storage and a folder under /var/run/sr-mount/UUID/ISO as my ISO store.

      Which seems incredibly simple. So I guess I have to ask. Is this the recommended solution?

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
        last edited by

        I would think local storage would be easier, faster, and less overhead.

        However - I could be wrong.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          On VMWare, I always load the ISO files up on the data store directly so I can mount them as needed for VM creation.

          With Hyper-V I always make sure that the C drive is large enough to hold the ISO files and put them in a folder named ISOs. When I need to add/remove them, I just browse to it from another machine and access the c$ admin share to change them.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            VM to host ISO's from, or to use local storage directly in xen?

            On my rebuild last night I went with this:

            I never understood why there wasn't an option in XenCenter to create a local iso repo. I did the same thing, except used another local drive and mounted it in /mnt/iso.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              Like @JaredBusch I store my ISOs in the ESXi filestore.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @stacksofplates
                last edited by coliver

                @johnhooks said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                VM to host ISO's from, or to use local storage directly in xen?

                On my rebuild last night I went with this:

                I never understood why there wasn't an option in XenCenter to create a local iso repo. I did the same thing, except used another local drive and mounted it in /mnt/iso.

                This is what I did as well. Mine is a fairly large USB stick though.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  VM to host ISO's from, or to use local storage directly in xen?

                  On my rebuild last night I went with this:

                  I never understood why there wasn't an option in XenCenter to create a local iso repo. I did the same thing, except used another local drive and mounted it in /mnt/iso.

                  This is what I did as well. Mine is a fairly large USB stick though.

                  I did have it that way, but when I set up the server again, I didn't use the USB. The drive I have set up is way overkill for an ISO repo, so I might go back to the USB.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                      Yep, very unsupported but it works.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                        Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                        That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @stacksofplates
                          last edited by

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                          Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                          That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                          I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @johnhooks Yes, I initially tried it, it doesn't work well at all.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                              Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                              That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                              I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

                              I wonder why they don't support software RAID since the Dom0 is CentOS.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                                That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                                I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

                                I wonder why they don't support software RAID since the Dom0 is CentOS.

                                My assumption is because Dom0 is just another VM with special permissions. If software raid were to do something bad it could mess with the other VMs? I really have no clue it does seem like a missed segment though.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  As far as I could tell, is they XS simply doesn't want to get involved with Software RAIDs or Fake RAIDs because of the issues that they pose.

                                  I could find no other reason.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                    last edited by

                                    @gjacobse said:

                                    I would think local storage would be easier, faster, and less overhead.

                                    However - I could be wrong.

                                    Yup, nothing is going to beat putting the files right on an HP SmartArray.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      On VMWare, I always load the ISO files up on the data store directly so I can mount them as needed for VM creation.

                                      Same here. In XenServer I normally mount a CIFS share loaded with ISO files to make things easy.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                        Looked into it. I'm a big user of hardware RAID for stuff in this category, I like the features and need others to be able to swap hard drives when they fail, but it will work just fine.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          So i did the "right" or best practice, in limiting my Environment by not introducing a VM or another host, and just loading my ISO's directly into the share.

                                          Awesome!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                            Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                                            Important to note that it is fully supported by Xen, just not the XenServer package.

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