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    Imaging Rights - Windows - Looking for clarification

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      Ok if "Both" then using any i recovery method for a personal computer I buy from best buy, even provided by the OEM would land me in court facing off with Microsoft.

      It has to be one or the other....

      Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm confused. What wording makes it exclusive?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said:

        The recovery dvd, in the dvd drive would land me in court.

        Using an imaging tool such as fog to redeploy this image via PXE would also land me in court.

        Why? Those are licensed methods?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          The argument here: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1173034-need-50-pc-s-re-imaged-lock-down-profiles-etc?page=1#entry-4999307

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            The argument here: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1173034-need-50-pc-s-re-imaged-lock-down-profiles-etc?page=1#entry-4999307

            Where? That is a long thread and I didn't see it in a quick look. Got a quote?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              The method is the question, can microsoft define how you can deploy the ISO to a target machine, and do they currently.

              VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Look at anything from dpaul.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?

                  Of course and I've seen no suggestion to the contrary.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Look at anything from dpaul.

                    I'm reading his stuff. I see no contradiction. Once you buy reimaging rights you are good to go. What's the issue. Do you have a quote to the contrary?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      You need to explain why you think there is a question because just stating that you see one doesn't guide me to seeing what you are seeing.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.

                        I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.

                        Am I wrong?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.

                          Of course you need that, VL is the only source of reimaging rights.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.

                            Am I wrong?

                            As far as I know, yes. Imaging is granted by VL. Once you are talking about reimaging rights, VL is assumed as that is where you gain those rights.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.

                              So where is the difference?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.

                                You can resintall, not reimage. You can't just call installing imaging, those are two different things.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  So where is the difference?

                                  Where is the similarity? 🙂

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    The similarity is that the machine is back to an OEM state.

                                    How does it matter how it go to that state.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      You may be allowed to do a one to one image to a unique image for each machine. That's very possible, I'm not sure there. But reimaging from a standard image is exclusive to VL.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        You answered your own question in the first post. I am not sure what the heck your issue it..

                                        First the definition of imaging.

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        Q: What are "reimaging rights"?
                                        A: Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image.

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        OEM-Specific Information
                                        Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image.

                                        now on to OEM

                                        snip

                                        All of that basically said you can use original OEM of customized OEM images to resinstall only on the same hardware that the OEM image was originally used used on. AKA a 1 to 1.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          The similarity is that the machine is back to an OEM state.

                                          How does it matter how it go to that state.

                                          It doesn't - how you get an OEM image back on a machine is irrelevant. but doing so has NOTHING to do with reimaging rights, because you are not reimaging, you are reinstalling the OEM stuff.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            The whole idea of Imaging Rights is the use of VL media deployed to multiple machines. If you are still using the OEM media, you're not using imaging rights.
                                            And as JB said, you can deploy/image/reinstall the OEM supplied software to the hardware it came with however you want.

                                            So onto your other question - why would you use FOG to deploy OEM images to a machine? This seems like a waste of time. When using FOG, you will more than likely be using VL media to deploy images.

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