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@Dashrender said:
How is this a Surface Pro? It runs IOS, right?
The comparison is that they are both tablets and both good as content consumers and bad as content creators. You CAN create with both and both are very bad at it. This is a device designed really well (we assume) to do what it does without all of the bloat of trying to pretend that it is a content creation device.
The Surface and the iPad are, to nearly all people, head to head competitors. Which is why Surfaces end up being used as iPads stands on TV - they are direct replacements to the average user. Tablet vs. tablet.
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@Dashrender said:
What? how so? She said this was Apple's version of the Surface Pro, so unless this device is a full blown MAC OS X, it's not Apple's version of the Surface Pro, it's simply Apples giant sized iPad.
Because Surface doesn't mean that to most people. It's a tablet, a content consuming device. Both are tablets, high powered ones.
What makes OSX special compared to iOS to you? They are different, yes of course, but what actual definition of functionality difference are you using to define whatever two things you have in your mind?
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@scottalanmiller said:
What makes OSX special compared to iOS to you? They are different, yes of course, but what actual definition of functionality difference are you using to define whatever two things you have in your mind?
Nothing anymore.. it's simply the availability of the app you want. which as we know is narrowing daily.
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@Dashrender said:
Nothing anymore.. it's simply the availability of the app you want. which as we know is narrowing daily.
So you are defining PC by "the number of apps that you want that people have made as third parties?"
Then things are only PCs on a personal basis and has nothing to do with the device at all. That seems a rather hard to use definition.
But you feel OSX has every app that you want? It's definitely not a PC to me by your definition of it.
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The Live Photos feature looks really cool.
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$32 a month for iPhone upgrade program from the Apple Store.
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@JaredBusch said:
$32 a month for iPhone upgrade program from the Apple Store.
That feels a little high, but maybe not. Is it every two years?
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Actually I no longer have a good definitely of PC, what used to be Personal Computer. Most these devices qualify for those two works these days. Your phone, your tablet, your desktop at home, etc - they are all personally connected to you and what you want them to do.
I'll admit that when I think of PC I bias myself to a a full Windows desktop/laptop OS i.e. Windows 10, a device that I can create my own software for, buy software for nearly any function I desire, etc. But when I look at the software side of that, the reality is that the same can pretty much be said for IOS/Android too, so what stops them from being a PC?
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@Dashrender said:
Actually I no longer have a good definitely of PC, what used to be Personal Computer.
PC was created by IBM and Intel in the very early 1980s and was an architectural spec for the IA16 and later IA32 and finally AMD64 platforms. It is an actual spec and was never open to interpretation.
Most non-technical people started using it to mean any personal computer, which had no definition and was just "not a shared machine." Now that we have things like iOS, one could argue that the old definition for casual non-technical use as a non-shared machine applies only to devices like iOS and Android and not to traditional desktops which are now multi-user in most cases.
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@Dashrender said:
I'll admit that when I think of PC I bias myself to a a full Windows desktop/laptop OS i.e. Windows 10, a device that I can create my own software for, buy software for nearly any function I desire, etc. But when I look at the software side of that, the reality is that the same can pretty much be said for IOS/Android too, so what stops them from being a PC?
On a technical side, they are not PC because they are not AMD64 and PC spec (you can be AMD64 and not PC as well.) PC is a full device spec for the interfaces and why the PC world is homogenized and the ARM world, for example, is not. There is no "ARM compatible" label because one ARM device can be quite different from another. But PC is PC. Hardware is interchangeable.
On a non-technical side the term means very little and nothing makes any of these devices more or less personal or a computer. Windows was not even the first OS on the PC. First it was CP/M, then DOS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
$32 a month for iPhone upgrade program from the Apple Store.
That feels a little high, but maybe not. Is it every two years?
Gets you an unlocked iPhone on the carrier of your choice (service is separate).
AppleCarePlus
Get a new phone every year.
It is a 24 month payment plan if you choose to stop getting a new phone, you will have finish paying for it.This is not a high price, when you already pay ~$27/month to AT&T or T-Mobile for the installment plan on their service if you do not pay up front. AT&T and T-Mobile have their payment plans total to exactly the retail cost, so there is no cost savings one way or the other with that side of it.
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This was a good article on the subject of Apple and expectations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/technology/personaltech/apples-iphone-still-breaks-the-rules-eight-years-on.html?_r=0
