Got this email from Ubiquiti today: Introducing the new UniFi AC APs


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    This takes the new units into the consumer once and done realm.


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    Well, wait and see. Until we actually have the product in our hands to play with, it might be a downgrade or it might be an upgrade.
    Not had an issue with the LR units we bought last year though, heard nothing but good about them, what's wrong with the units?

    @JaredBusch said:

    This takes the new units into the consumer once and done realm.

    For simple setups, why would you want/need a controller? Think 3-5 person office, IT guy walks in, takes the AP out the box, takes out his IPhone, sets it up, walks away.

    The controller will still be there (most likely, why would they aggravate their current market share by cutting out a feature) for most deployments but for the simple side, surely.



  • @JaredBusch said:

    Just read a thread with an interesting twist for these new UAP-AC line.

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    Opens up a 'larger' market in a sort. I can't see why I would want to put more than two UAPs on my controller. It's not like I have a lot of real estate under roof. And no reason for me to install UAPs at my normal locations of visiting...


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    @johnhooks said:

    I wonder if the range is still the same as the others? 600 for LR, and 400 for the others.

    Why would you buy the LR. Client Devices aren't Long Range.. It's only good for mesh, and even then lets run a cable if we can.


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    @JasonNM said:

    Why would you buy the LR. Client Devices aren't Long Range.. It's only good for mesh, and even then lets run a cable if we can.

    This. Not only are client devices not long range, but the power near the AP itself will be so strong that it will overwhelm the client device and cause it to not work well anyway.



  • @JasonNM @JaredBusch I wasn't saying I had one or wanted one. I just wondered how the new AP's compared to the old ones in terms of range.


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    @JasonNM said:

    @johnhooks said:

    I wonder if the range is still the same as the others? 600 for LR, and 400 for the others.

    Why would you buy the LR. Client Devices aren't Long Range.. It's only good for mesh, and even then lets run a cable if we can.

    And if you can't run a cable? It's not a case of distance, sometimes it is a case of signal strength. In a very difficult to AP building they have worked wonders.

    When looking at the UAP and the UAP-LR the LR is the same with a stronger antenna, few users reported that the LR runs hotter than the UAP but that was the only negative I could find.

    @JaredBusch said:

    This. Not only are client devices not long range, but the power near the AP itself will be so strong that it will overwhelm the client device and cause it to not work well anyway.

    Stood next to the AP-LR, with a mobile and laptop, no problems at all. The units were purchased November 14 and have been performing flawlessly ever since.


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    Maybe its the luck of the Irish protecting me for now.


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    @Breffni-Potter said:

    Maybe its the luck of the Irish protecting me for now.

    Or you are intelligent, which would be more likely. 🍀

    A lot of people buy they LR then have problems at range and turn up the power.

    The AP transmit power is not going to help a weak device transmit its signal any stronger. These devices simply cannot reach that far.

    But the turned up power on the AP now because a problem for near devices.


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    @Breffni-Potter said:

    And if you can't run a cable? It's not a case of distance, sometimes it is a case of signal strength. In a very difficult to AP building they have worked wonders.

    How's that going to work with the client device is pretty much always going to have a weaker signal than the AP. Wifi is bi-directional ya know? haha.


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    @JasonNM said:

    How's that going to work with the client device is pretty much always going to have a weaker signal than the AP. Wifi is bi-directional ya know? haha.

    Works for me where HP Procurves have failed miserably. I'll let the physicists argue it out 🙂


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    @Breffni-Potter said:

    @JasonNM said:

    How's that going to work with the client device is pretty much always going to have a weaker signal than the AP. Wifi is bi-directional ya know? haha.

    Works for me where HP Procurves have failed miserably. I'll let the physicists argue it out 🙂

    But, is that just because the HP's sucked? I don't see anything there that would imply the Long Range would be helping out anything.



  • @Breffni-Potter I had decent luck with the Procurves for the first year or two... but they did not age gracefully at all.



  • I've had procurves for 8+ years now... very little if any troubles with them.


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    @johnhooks said:

    @JasonNM @JaredBusch I wasn't saying I had one or wanted one. I just wondered how the new AP's compared to the old ones in terms of range.

    Range is just important to consider in different context. The range of the AP isn't the same as the useful range, which is determined by the AP, the client and the environment together.