hyper-V in desktop machine (core 2 Deo 2 GB Ram and 250 GB in HD)



  • i want to take your advise regarding the following setup :
    i want to setup hyper-V in a desktop machine with the following characteristic : core 2 Deo 2 GB Ram and 250 GB in HD knowing that i want to host in it only 2 light VM (freePBX and pfsense) and this server will serve only 4 users

    is it possible to do so ??



  • Yes you could do this. You may want to check your processor model to make sure it supports virtualization. I think almost all Core 2 Duos did... but there may be one or two skus that did not.



  • And you'll need to make sure virtualization is enabled in the BIOS, by default it was not.



  • thank you very much for your advices, for the PC it is DELL optiplex 360, does this version support virtualisation ??


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    @IT-ADMIN said:

    i want to take your advise regarding the following setup :
    i want to setup hyper-V in a desktop machine with the following characteristic : core 2 Deo 2 GB Ram and 250 GB in HD knowing that i want to host in it only 2 light VM (freePBX and pfsense) and this server will serve only 4 users

    is it possible to do so ??

    Should be quite possible. Memory is fine, but light. HD is way more than enough. CPU is plenty as long as it supports virtualization. FreePBX should get around 800MB of RAM ideally and can make do in about half that. pfSense should use far less, 300MB is likely more than enough.



  • then it is OK, thank you



  • i guess my CPU support virtualization as this image show :
    20150826_172009.jpg

    is this image say that my CPU support VT??


  • Service Provider

    Looks like you are good to go then!



  • great! now i have to install Hyper-V server 2012 R2, then connect remotly to it via Hyper-V role to add my 2 light VM :) am i on the right direction ??


  • Service Provider

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    great! now i have to install Hyper-V server 2012 R2, then connect remotly to it via Hyper-V role to add my 2 light VM :) am i on the right direction ??

    Are you using HyperV straight or via a Windows Server 2012 R2 installation?


  • Service Provider

    And just because it's always good to ask, what is driving you to HyperV over XenServer?



  • thank you Dear Scott for your interest to ask me about my decision, first of all i'm using Hyper-V server R2 the Hypervisor not the one included in windown server 2012 (for $$ reason) because it is totally free, concerning your second question why Hyper-V and not Xenserver, this is because MS solution are all the time easier than whatever else (i'm not ready to have headache especially i'm just an IT beginner)


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    @IT-ADMIN said:

    thank you Dear Scott for your interest to ask me about my decision, first of all i'm using Hyper-V server R2 the Hypervisor not the one included in windown server 2012 (for $$ reason) because it is totally free, concerning your second question why Hyper-V and not Xenserver, this is because MS solution are all the time easier than whatever else (i'm not ready to have headache especially i'm just an IT beginner)

    That's why I was asking, because XenServer is quite a bit easier than HyperV, in my experience. Microsoft solutions are normally harder and more complex, rather than easier. XenServer is extremely easy to use, the easiest hypervisor for sure.



  • i forget one important thing is unitrend offer free backup and restore solution for hyper-V while XenServer not


  • Service Provider

    And XenServer is a bit better at the workloads that you are wanting to tackle.



  • @IT-ADMIN said:

    thank you Dear Scott for your interest to ask me about my decision, first of all i'm using Hyper-V server R2 the Hypervisor not the one included in windown server 2012 (for $$ reason) because it is totally free, concerning your second question why Hyper-V and not Xenserver, this is because MS solution are all the time easier than whatever else (i'm not ready to have headache especially i'm just an IT beginner)

    You really should check out XenServer... it really is not much different then Hyper-V and much easier to manage all things considered. The graphical installer walks you everything you need and XenCenter is much better then Hyper-V manager.


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    @IT-ADMIN said:

    i forget one important thing is unitrend offer free backup and restore solution for hyper-V while XenServer not

    That's correct and that is a big reason to choose HyperV (for now.)

    XenServer does have built in backups for free, though, so not necessary a big deal.

    @DustinB3403 uses free XS backups and can tell you about them.



  • @IT-ADMIN said:

    i forget one important thing is unitrend offer free backup and restore solution for hyper-V while XenServer not

    Ah yep that could do it. Although I think Unitrends has said their Spiceworks license does cover XenServer.



  • At our environment we use XenServer CE, and a backup script named NAUBackup.

    It runs via crontab jobs, and will make running state backups of the specificed VM's. It really works well.

    We then pull these snapshots down, and test in virtual box on our workstations.

    It's simple and free to setup, just needa NFS or CIFS server to host the snapshots.


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    @coliver said:

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    i forget one important thing is unitrend offer free backup and restore solution for hyper-V while XenServer not

    Ah yep that could do it. Although I think Unitrends has said their Spiceworks license does cover XenServer.

    I know for a fact that it currently does not, but I've been pressuring them to change that.


  • Service Provider

    You have lots of XenServer and HyperV users here in the community. You will have good community support for either. Those are definitely my two most often recommended options.



  • now i find it difficult to make my decision, i really like MS solution because there are plenty of documentation out there and almost the majority of companies use it, sometimes we choose what is spread out in what the majority of companies use it because we may change the job and find preexisting infrastructure that we are not familiar with
    last time i ask one of my friend about virtualization what he know EXSI and hyper-V, i think XenServer is Known in US maybe but in our market most people use EXSI or Hyper-V



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @coliver said:

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    i forget one important thing is unitrend offer free backup and restore solution for hyper-V while XenServer not

    Ah yep that could do it. Although I think Unitrends has said their Spiceworks license does cover XenServer.

    I know for a fact that it currently does not, but I've been pressuring them to change that.

    Ah good to know.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    You have lots of XenServer and HyperV users here in the community. You will have good community support for either. Those are definitely my two most often recommended options.

    very good, hyper-V is one of the Hypervisore that you recommend so i will not be strange in this community



  • @IT-ADMIN said:

    now i find it difficult to make my decision, i really like MS solution because there are plenty of documentation out there and almost the majority of companies use it, sometimes we choose what is spread out in what the majority of companies use it because we may change the job and find preexisting infrastructure that we are not familiar with
    last time i ask one of my friend about virtualization what he know EXSI and hyper-V, i think XenServer is Known in US maybe but in our market most people use EXSI or Hyper-V

    I think VMWare ESXi still have the majority market in the US atleast in SMBs and SMEs. Hyper-V and XenServer are fighting for a distant (although catching up quickly) second.

    I run Hyper-V in the office here and XenServer in my home lab.


  • Service Provider

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    now i find it difficult to make my decision, i really like MS solution because there are plenty of documentation out there and almost the majority of companies use it....

    Definitely not the majority. HyperV is the tertiary hypervisor by marketshare. VMware ESXi and Xen are the big boys . HyperV is growing rapidly but is very new and only really in the small business space. Xen is one of the two players for the enterprise and used by the really big platforms like Amazon, Rackspace and IBM. Many companies run on Xen and don't realize that that is what they have chosen. Essentially all enterprise cloud is Xen (except, of course, Azure, which is not HyperV either.)


  • Service Provider

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    last time i ask one of my friend about virtualization what he know EXSI and hyper-V, i think XenServer is Known in US maybe but in our market most people use EXSI or Hyper-V

    The bigger, faster and more enterprise you get, the more you find Xen. Xen plays at the very top tiers most of the time. But is very good for the SMB.



  • after making some research in the internet i find out that hyper-V is more suitable for small environment (like us :))

    http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/Choosing-vSphere-vs-Hyper-V-vs-XenServer



  • @IT-ADMIN said:

    after making some research in the internet i find out that hyper-V is more suitable for small environment (like us :))

    http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/Choosing-vSphere-vs-Hyper-V-vs-XenServer

    But it isn't more or less suitable then any other hypervisor. Especially when compared to XenServer (and less so ESXi). XenServer is easier to implement and has a fantastic user interface/management interface.

    Granted the backup you have chosen doesn't support it so you are right in going with Hyper-V.


  • Service Provider

    @IT-ADMIN said:

    after making some research in the internet i find out that hyper-V is more suitable for small environment (like us :))

    http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/Choosing-vSphere-vs-Hyper-V-vs-XenServer

    That article is completely wrong and gets the info backwards. It calls XenServer the immature product but HyperV is the immature one of the bunch.

    XenServer is generally better suited, especially in your case (except for the Unitrends thing.)

    What reasons do you feel HyperV would be better? It has fewer features, is less mature, is harder to learn and use, is more confusing.

    That article is full of misinformation. What made you feel that they were a good source and the virtualization people here are not? I have more experience on Xen, for example, than HyperV has even existed.


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