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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      Again its a want, there isn't a solid need for HA.

      And for the cost of it I'd rather have it as a raise to my check 🙂

      But if it helps the company be more productive and healthy then go for it.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        This entire conversation needs split into a new thread..

        @DustinB3403 your answer here is to build the $4000 server as specified with the SSD.

        Then Install Hyper-V or XenServer on it
        Then take your 3 physical hosts and P2V them into three virtual machines.
        No remapping, no changing of anything except the old hardware goes poof.

        Then Backup the three virtual machines to your Buffalo TeraStation.

        End of f'n project.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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          @dafyre said:

          @DustinB3403 This is the way I think as well. If having a failover server seems feasible to the budget (and/or the bean counters), and the boss is sold on the idea as well, then it should be done.

          It's not from what he has described, they are doing exactly the opposite. The idea that HA would be entertained at all seems very far fetched. In one case we are taking what they have today and improving it in every way compared to their current situation and any proposed situation. In the other you are trying to double their costs and do something the very opposite of what their actions suggest that they value.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller I was referring to his desire to build a backup / redundant / failover server, just in case of a fire, earthquake, tornado, flood, and/or other acts of God... and also only if it is reasonably done money wise.

            But as he said... It is a want, and he'd rather have that money put on his paycheck... to this, I would agree.

            But like you'v said in other threads... It might be worth doing a cost analysis to figure out whether or not it would be better for them to be down for a day, or have another server to just fail over to in the event of a dead server.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said:

              @scottalanmiller I was referring to his desire to build a backup / redundant / failover server, just in case of a fire, earthquake, tornado, flood, and/or other acts of God... and also only if it is reasonably done money wise.

              Yes, but it isn't a reasonable thing given the context for the business in any way. Nor does it protect against those things, that would be a DR site, not a second box.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                It's amazing where the prices for something like this is today. I built a similar setup just 20 months ago, but had a stupid HDD requirement to fullfil and each server was $50K, you're totally kicking my ass and it's only costing you $4k.

                Nice!

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Yeah well apparently the MSP is even kicking my butt at the price each server is $2000 (granted I have no idea what is inside of them)

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Oh I know what it doesn't include the cost of the SAN...

                    haha there's the other $20,000

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      If the $2k doesn't include drives, who cares? that's what this whole thing is about.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Yeah well apparently the MSP is even kicking my butt at the price each server is $2000 (granted I have no idea what is inside of them)

                        We could do it cheap if we didn't care about quality or the company at all. Getting the price down is easy.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Without local drives we could probably come in way lower.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            Yeah I know....

                            Pennywise pound foolish..

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
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                              Tech forum topics is another one to add to the list.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                                @nadnerB said:

                                Tech forum topics is another one to add to the list.

                                Tech forum topics?

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                                • nadnerBN
                                  nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @nadnerB said:

                                  Tech forum topics is another one to add to the list.

                                  Tech forum topics?

                                  They are a part of IT, and they quite often go of track or in the wrong direction.

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