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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      Like a hypervisor?

      not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        Like a hypervisor?

        not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

        Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

          That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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            @johnhooks said:

            Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

            Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @johnhooks said:

              Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

              Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

              I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                  No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                  Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                    Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                      *cough* Synology *cough*

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        *cough* Synology *cough*

                        Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                          Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                              Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                              Haha this is too far? 😛

                              Synology_Software.jpg

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

                                    hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks Synology's best Chernobyl impression no doubt

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                        @MattSpeller I just told my wife this last night. It's funny how avatars change perception of things. Every post I read of yours comes out in a Ron Swanson voice in my head. I love it.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                          @johnhooks By using his pic for my avatar I hope to one day gain some of the powers he keeps in his moustache.

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