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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      @scottalanmiller Leaving the Network switches behind? 😉

      Yes. The house would be mostly unusable without them.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said:

        For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

        Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

        @johnhooks said:

        Or save money like Scott said and get all ubiquiti.

        No. This listed device contains an AC chip. It is impossible to do this with Ubiquiti and be cheaper. The lowest I have ever seen their UAP-AC go for is $250.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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          @anonymous said:

          The perfect home setup is:

          1) Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X
          http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/

          2) Ubiquiti Networks UniFi AP
          http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B004XXMUCQ/

          3) TP-LINK TL-SG108E 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch
          http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108E-8-Port-Gigabit-Tag-Based/dp/B00K4DS5KU/

          This is a solid home user setup alright as long as you do not need/want the AC functionality.

          I will have to remember that TP-Link switch, though. That is a nice price point for the feature set.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            I am a big believer in being wired whenever possible.

            I fall in this camp. Wired performance will always be better than wireless.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said:

              @johnhooks said:

              For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

              Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

              Like a hypervisor?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @johnhooks said:

                Like a hypervisor?

                No, like a UTM in your router.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @johnhooks said:

                  Like a hypervisor?

                  not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by stacksofplates

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Like a hypervisor?

                    not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

                    Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said:

                      Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                      That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                        Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                          Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

                          I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @johnhooks said:

                            I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                            No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                              No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                              Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                                Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                                  *cough* Synology *cough*

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    *cough* Synology *cough*

                                    Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                      Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                          Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                                          Haha this is too far? 😛

                                          Synology_Software.jpg

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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