Microsoft Send
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@Dashrender -- I do use the Outlook converstation view... but you are right. Some times the conversations will collapse and others they will not, and you have to click the > to make it work right.
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I had disabled conversation view on my desktop a bit ago. Once I turned that back on send makes a bit more sense now. It's great on my phone too (iPhone). So that makes it a little better. But it's still one more application to use. So not sure it's worth a whole ton right now.
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@Minion-Queen said:
I had disabled conversation view on my desktop a bit ago. Once I turned that back on send makes a bit more sense now. It's great on my phone too (iPhone). So that makes it a little better. But it's still one more application to use. So not sure it's worth a whole ton right now.
That's the idea.... not to be one more application, but to be one fewer. No need to text for work now. Now just two interfaces to one system and no necessity to have the phone by you when working because the "texts" are part of the email and you can read them with the email client. It doesn't just eliminate an app platform, it eliminates an entire physical device and separate network!
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Once they get a Send interface for the desktop, I think the value of this app will really shine. They need to build it into OWA.
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Yes I think that is what it is missing is a desktop app.
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@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Agreed - all business apps need to bring this 'chatting via text' into a single interface.
There are a few apps that try to do this on the phone side - bridge texting and IMing into one - What's App comes to mind.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Skype is a different platform. This is not, this is just an interface to email for those people, and there are a lot of them, that have complained about how "hard" email is. This leverages the core infrastructure of communications in a different way, but the value is in that it is still all a single system and just end users choosing to use it differently.
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I've talked to my physicians about using a secure text client, but the push back was that they didn't want to have to maintain two apps for the same function. i.e. chatting with family vs chatting with other physicians and staff.
As far as I can tell though, considering the secure requirement of Personal Health Information (PHI) and unlikeliness of getting everyone in the world to switch to a single secure texting platform, I don't see this happening. They will be forced to use two separate apps.
In my case, fortunately a huge name in healthcare, Epocrates, has created a free secure text client that any physician can use. Even better, as physicians join, they are all able to find and text each through the app.
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@Dashrender said:
I've talked to my physicians about using a secure text client, but the push back was that they didn't want to have to maintain two apps for the same function. i.e. chatting with family vs chatting with other physicians and staff.
How do they deal with phone call security and email security then? Wouldn't the same issues apply?
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@Dashrender said:
As far as I can tell though, considering the secure requirement of Personal Health Information (PHI) and unlikeliness of getting everyone in the world to switch to a single secure texting platform, I don't see this happening. They will be forced to use two separate apps.
You could always secure text messages. That would be the most annoying thing ever
Imagine a third part encryption scheme for SMS!!Or course it would either be crazy insecure or would break the 144 character limitation.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Skype is a different platform. This is not, this is just an interface to email for those people, and there are a lot of them, that have complained about how "hard" email is. This leverages the core infrastructure of communications in a different way, but the value is in that it is still all a single system and just end users choosing to use it differently.
Hard - wow - and texting is easier? only because has no subject line? shakes head in shame!
We have the opposite problem here - people don't put anything in the body and only type their messages into the subject line.
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@Dashrender said:
In my case, fortunately a huge name in healthcare, Epocrates, has created a free secure text client that any physician can use. Even better, as physicians join, they are all able to find and text each through the app.
It's really just a third party IM tool though, right? It's not actually related to texting, not sure it could possibly be.
Microsoft has done the same thing here for free. Secure text-like functionality through the existing security system that is already approved (if you have O365 for email, of course.)
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@Dashrender said:
Hard - wow - and texting is easier? only because has no subject line? shakes head in shame!
Seriously, have heard this one several times!
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@Dashrender said:
We have the opposite problem here - people don't put anything in the body and only type their messages into the subject line.
Well that IS much more like texting. ALL conversations with one person is a single conversation with SMS. The idea of conversations doesn't exist there. So crippling email and using it poorly is a way to mimic texting more closely. And the subject line feels more length limited like SMS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
How do they deal with phone call security and email security then? Wouldn't the same issues apply?
The government doesn't place a burden on medical to secure voice conversations, so we don't care about those.
As for email, they are not suppose to email PHI outside of the company. Inside is fine because all communication between the clients and the server are encrypted. For example - since the BOD didn't want to purchase a third party secure texting solution, they use email to communicate about patients when they are off site.
Emailing everyone else (especially family) generally doesn't include PHI, so those just come and go as desired. Unlike texting, the email does provide the needed security for the internal communications, and then tacks on the desired external communications when desired. -
@Dashrender said:
The government doesn't place a burden on medical to secure voice conversations, so we don't care about those.
Are you sure? I thought that HIPAA made a point of all communications needing to be secure, I didn't know that they had a specific relaxation of the requirement for voice.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
As far as I can tell though, considering the secure requirement of Personal Health Information (PHI) and unlikeliness of getting everyone in the world to switch to a single secure texting platform, I don't see this happening. They will be forced to use two separate apps.
You could always secure text messages. That would be the most annoying thing ever
Imagine a third part encryption scheme for SMS!!Or course it would either be crazy insecure or would break the 144 character limitation.
That's why you replace it with an IM client that encrypts real time - something like Threema (which is free).
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@Dashrender said:
As for email, they are not suppose to email PHI outside of the company. Inside is fine because all communication between the clients and the server are encrypted. For example - since the BOD didn't want to purchase a third party secure texting solution, they use email to communicate about patients when they are off site.
Emailing everyone else (especially family) generally doesn't include PHI, so those just come and go as desired. Unlike texting, the email does provide the needed security for the internal communications, and then tacks on the desired external communications when desired.What I meant was how do they handle their family email vs. their business one. I guess they have family email them at work and don't keep personal accounts?
This use of texting-like from Send would allow you to integrate texting into the system. But would only be useful as "appearing as text" to people inside.
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@Dashrender said:
That's why you replace it with an IM client that encrypts real time - something like Threema (which is free).
Right, so the solution to texting is to not use texting, which is what I've always said
I never suggesting the IMing was bad.
