4K vs UHD
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@MattSpeller said:
@Dashrender for larger than 50" go with a projo, you will not regret it
I hate the contrast from projectors just no as accurate.
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I can't be the only fan of a really nice projector throwing a 10' screen on the wall of a tiny apartment. I like the screen so big that you can JUST see both sides without turning your head
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@MattSpeller said:
I can't be the only fan of a really nice projector throwing a 10' screen on the wall of a tiny apartment. I like the screen so big that you can JUST see both sides without turning your head
Don't get me wrong - in my basement, perhaps one day I'll do that (but not likely since I'll be able to get a 10' TV for 1/3 or less the price of a great projector). Again only available in my basement where there are no windows, no light pollution.
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
I can't be the only fan of a really nice projector throwing a 10' screen on the wall of a tiny apartment. I like the screen so big that you can JUST see both sides without turning your head
Don't get me wrong - in my basement, perhaps one day I'll do that (but not likely since I'll be able to get a 10' TV for 1/3 or less the price of a great projector). Again only available in my basement where there are no windows, no light pollution.
Yeah that's my plan at some point for movies, but not for every day usage.
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@MattSpeller said:
I can't be the only fan of a really nice projector throwing a 10' screen on the wall of a tiny apartment. I like the screen so big that you can JUST see both sides without turning your head
My father dropped ~$7-8K on his current projector and another ~$5K on the rest of the equipment/room for the home theater. He and I did the install ourselves and he now has a fantastic 12' 16:9 3D ready home theater... Unfortunately we can't really control the lighting as much as I would like... but either way it is a badass man cave. He loves watching football on it... not much of a sports person, I've played a few games on it when I hooked my laptop up to it. Playing Totalwar on a 12' screen is amazing.
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@coliver Call me when you can emulate a Holodeck and I'll come visit.
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Then I could hire Wil Wheaton to mop the holodeck
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So we should get this topic back on track... Is it 4k, 2160p, 1080p, or 1080i, or less? lol.
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$0.02
2160P = 3840x2160
4K = whatever the other one was, 4096xsomething?
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@MattSpeller 4096 x 2160 as well, lol. Just to make it even more confusing!
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@dafyre sigh
Thread TL;DR - some bastard marketing wanks have made things confusing that should be straight forward.
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@MattSpeller said:
@dafyre sigh
Thread TL;DR - some bastard marketing wanks have made things confusing that should be straight forward.
Hence Scott's suggestion of dumping the names and just moving to pure resolution markers...
the problem with that.. the public will ask - uh.. are these different resolutions all compatible?
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@Dashrender Well that depends on how the signal is encoded... What happens if you try to play a 4096x2160 video on a 1920 x 1080 TV? If it his hooked up to a PC, then the PC handles the scaling of the video to the right resolution...
The trick will be getting older TVs that understand say... 720p and give them the ability to downscale the video to their size... Some DVD players can Up / Downscale video nowdays... Getting it onto older TVs would be a bit tricker.
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I see a huge potential problem in the coming months/years as there are more and more options. TVs will need to be flash updatable so they can be upgraded to support the ability to convert signals on the fly, or else we'll have people with tv sets that just aren't workable.
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@Dashrender said:
I see a huge potential problem in the coming months/years as there are more and more options. TVs will need to be flash updatable so they can be upgraded to support the ability to convert signals on the fly, or else we'll have people with tv sets that just aren't workable.
I think it would be a good idea for TVs to be flashable, and many of the newere "smart" TVs are. However, I think it may make more sense to use set top boxes like folks do now for the HD Antennae, except instead of doing HDTV over the air, it will scale the video to fit the resolution of the TV it is connected to.
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@Dashrender said:
I see a huge potential problem in the coming months/years as there are more and more options. TVs will need to be flash updatable so they can be upgraded to support the ability to convert signals on the fly, or else we'll have people with tv sets that just aren't workable.
Unlikely. all these encoders are hardware specific encoders for the type (ASIC) rather than generic Processing. It would also cut into their sales of newer TVs.
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@Dashrender said:
....TVs will need to be flash updatable so they can be upgraded to support ....
Yesssss make them updatable... I can't think of anything evil I could possibly do with a wifi connected device with speakers and soon microphones in your livingroom....Excuse me I need to go find a hairless cat and some henchmen.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender Well that depends on how the signal is encoded... What happens if you try to play a 4096x2160 video on a 1920 x 1080 TV? If it his hooked up to a PC, then the PC handles the scaling of the video to the right resolution...
Depends on If the TV supports higher res inputs or not.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
I see a huge potential problem in the coming months/years as there are more and more options. TVs will need to be flash updatable so they can be upgraded to support the ability to convert signals on the fly, or else we'll have people with tv sets that just aren't workable.
I think it would be a good idea for TVs to be flashable, and many of the newere "smart" TVs are. However, I think it may make more sense to use set top boxes like folks do now for the HD Antennae, except instead of doing HDTV over the air, it will scale the video to fit the resolution of the TV it is connected to.
It's not just scaling it's codecs too. OTA with UHD will be H.265 where is it's currently MPEG2. A Setup box will be required for OTA. I don't think will see many upgradable ones, not unless they were designed with something specific in mind but the specs where still loosely defined.
